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> Women dominate many professions. Men dominate many professions. As a society we don't need to have an equal number of penises and vaginas present in all profe

> Women dominate many professions. Men dominate many professions. As a society we don't need to have an equal number of penises and vaginas present in all professions. If you did just a bit of critical thinking about which genders dominate which professions and why, including historical trends, you'd arrive to either two conclusions. 1) One gender is naturally predisposed to being nurturing and subjugated and taken care of and caring, or 2) there have been cultural protectionist barriers set up to protect the most bountiful activities. What did people say before women reached parity or near-parity in Law and Medicine? Were they biologically disinclined then too?

Kalium 12y ago
Or 3) the previous binary is overly simplistic. Bear in mind that there are studies in apes demonstrating preferences in toys that mirror what is widely assumed to be purely cultural influences in humans.
- nine_k 12y ago
  (Offtopic:) Why do you think apes lack some kind of culture? I wonder how was the studies controlled for that.
  - Kalium 12y ago
    I don't think apes culture-free. I suspect ape culture is highly unlikely to have gendering of wheeled toys. Mostly because that requires the discovery/invention of wheels and so on, which ape cultures outside our own have largely not managed.
  - nerfhammer 12y ago
    It's reliable across different populations and has been demonstrated in monkeys (non-apes), for which the existence of culture may be more more doubtful. It's pretty easy to replicate, here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm9xXyw2f7g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm9xXyw2f7g
drzaiusapelord 12y ago
>there have been cultural protectionist barriers set up to protect the most bountiful activities. How is tech bountiful for men and why would men keep anyone out of it? My female friends all went to medical or law school or got a fancy post-graduate degree and used their prestigious bonafides to go straight into a high paying career. They make more money than me and anyone I know in tech. The realty is that tech kinda sucks for everyone but a handful of personality types. If you're overly social, outgoing, not detail obsessed, not interested in puzzles, etc then you wont like it. I think the gender argument is bunk. There's more division intra-gender than inter-gender. Instead we should focus on personality types, but frankly, I don't think society is mature enough for a rational discussion of this topic. Outrage and gender politics rules the social media roost and in the future people will look back at this time and think us all morons; and rightfully so.
- Kalium 12y ago
  A developmental psychologist I have known for many years opines that there is roughly as much variance between genders as there is within genders.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 12y ago
  "How is tech bountiful for men" I'm a mid-career SE, with lots of people on this forum making a lot more than I do, and I appear to be at the 97% percentile for annual income. Stack that paper, dollar dollar bill y'all.
  - drzaiusapelord 12y ago
    One of the lawyers I know clears $450k. How close are you to that?
    - GFK_of_xmaspast 12y ago
      That's also 4 times the median lawyer salary.

Kalium 12y ago

Or 3) the previous binary is overly simplistic. Bear in mind that there are studies in apes demonstrating preferences in toys that mirror what is widely assumed to be purely cultural influences in humans.

nine_k 12y ago
(Offtopic:) Why do you think apes lack some kind of culture? I wonder how was the studies controlled for that.
- Kalium 12y ago
  I don't think apes culture-free. I suspect ape culture is highly unlikely to have gendering of wheeled toys. Mostly because that requires the discovery/invention of wheels and so on, which ape cultures outside our own have largely not managed.
- nerfhammer 12y ago
  It's reliable across different populations and has been demonstrated in monkeys (non-apes), for which the existence of culture may be more more doubtful. It's pretty easy to replicate, here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm9xXyw2f7g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm9xXyw2f7g

drzaiusapelord 12y ago

>there have been cultural protectionist barriers set up to protect the most bountiful activities. How is tech bountiful for men and why would men keep anyone out of it? My female friends all went to medical or law school or got a fancy post-graduate degree and used their prestigious bonafides to go straight into a high paying career. They make more money than me and anyone I know in tech. The realty is that tech kinda sucks for everyone but a handful of personality types. If you're overly social, outgoing, not detail obsessed, not interested in puzzles, etc then you wont like it. I think the gender argument is bunk. There's more division intra-gender than inter-gender. Instead we should focus on personality types, but frankly, I don't think society is mature enough for a rational discussion of this topic. Outrage and gender politics rules the social media roost and in the future people will look back at this time and think us all morons; and rightfully so.

Kalium 12y ago
A developmental psychologist I have known for many years opines that there is roughly as much variance between genders as there is within genders.
GFK_of_xmaspast 12y ago
"How is tech bountiful for men" I'm a mid-career SE, with lots of people on this forum making a lot more than I do, and I appear to be at the 97% percentile for annual income. Stack that paper, dollar dollar bill y'all.
- drzaiusapelord 12y ago
  One of the lawyers I know clears $450k. How close are you to that?
  - GFK_of_xmaspast 12y ago
    That's also 4 times the median lawyer salary.