I don't consider the tests.py issue to be "part of using a framework" its just as bug. However solving the problem properly is a harder problem (right ow djang

I don't consider the tests.py issue to be "part of using a framework" its just as bug. However solving the problem properly is a harder problem (right ow djangos app cache is a part of the orm, the right fix is to have a real app cache that doesn't kow about models, ad let the orm have its ow cache that just deals with models).