> We should reduce our population over the next century or 2, we should get off the fossil fuel imperative (it's a single-source failure point for our entire in

> We should reduce our population over the next century or 2, we should get off the fossil fuel imperative (it's a single-source failure point for our entire infrastructure) and we shouldn't listen to "big industry" and it's so-called solutions that really amount to digging our holes deeper. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism The economic problem with your proposal is simple : it's not a Nash-equilibrium (one non-cooperative participant can kill the whole thing). You might as well try to paint the sky red. > Locally grown produce simply IS better overall (transport energy, health (honey from same region containing pollen and dead microbes from region, vaccine like effects... freshness, wow i could go on and on. it's science not hype) etc. I will contend that the supermarket food system, including it's producers, distributors, etc are the problem, not the solution. They are the solution to feeding the maximum number of people effectively, not the solution to feeding individuals in the best possible way. The thing is, requiring production methods that would leave 50%+ of the planet without food is going to be very bad for the health of 50%+ of the planet. Feeding them "suits dependant" foodstuffs is going to be very bad for the health of, oh, maybe a percent or two, of them and us (in the sense that they'll die somewhat sooner than in some parts of the west, which for the vast majority of those 50%+ would be an extension of their lifespan). One might make the argument that you're proposing enabling the already very, very rich to live 1% healthier is more important than the survival of many of the poor. If you truly intend to do things this way, may I suggest building up the military too, because you'll need it. > naively pitches a solution that clearly has certain economic interests at stake. And why do you think 6 billion humans can survive in the 21st century when that couldn't happen in the, oh, say 16th ? Exactly because those economic interests are so much bigger now. Economy grows first, then population increases follow. The way to make life better for 80%+ of our planet is to make their economies grow.