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i would say i felt similar lackluster when i interviewed (engineering position) there a few years ago. probably one of the worst interviews i've had, completely

by papaver 11y ago

i would say i felt similar lackluster when i interviewed (engineering position) there a few years ago. probably one of the worst interviews i've had, completely mechanical. literally all human emotion removed from it. the interview consisted of purely how well one did on the 5 sessions of solving problems. not a single session even bothered to take into account personality. the last interviewer explained they did't want to introduce any sort of bias hence the reasoning for the robotic interviews. was pretty sad. i love search/gmail/maps but there isn't much coming out of google thats pushing the envelope these days for me. once again the story of david and goliath... infinite growth is not sustainable...

skj 11y ago
> not a single session even bothered to take into account personality. So you'd prefer that the interviewers set up situations for unconscious biases to take hold? That would hurt the quality of engineering at Google.
- crandycodes 11y ago
  What if the "robotic" questions themselves have a bias? They almost certainly do. (They've already turned off people who don't like robotic questions. :P) Demographic diversity is just as important as creative/intellectual diversity - I think diversity of hires requires diversity of questions. It requires some bad interviews, but it creates some great interviews. I've had interviews and been interviewed in both settings; no regrets. White male, though, so hard to say.
- Steko 11y ago
  Perhaps that's not the end of the world. Is Google's primary burden to growth their quality of engineering? I doubt it, so weighing the entire interview on coding skills seems like a mistake, one that is compounded by creating a homogenous culture where everyone has the same blind spots.
- outside1234 11y ago
  The counter to your argument is that many of Google's products, like Google+, feel like something a shut-in would develop. No soul, no emotional appeal, and I suspect it comes out of this engineering is everything (at the expense of product people and creative types) mentality.
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pgodzin 11y ago
Here's the rationale: http://www.wired.com/2015/04/hire-like-google/ http://www.wired.com/2015/04/hire-like-google/
robryan 11y ago
"but there isn't much coming out of google thats pushing the envelope these days for me." What about things like the partnership with spacex and self driving cars?

by papaver 11y ago

skj 11y ago

> not a single session even bothered to take into account personality. So you'd prefer that the interviewers set up situations for unconscious biases to take hold? That would hurt the quality of engineering at Google.

crandycodes 11y ago
What if the "robotic" questions themselves have a bias? They almost certainly do. (They've already turned off people who don't like robotic questions. :P) Demographic diversity is just as important as creative/intellectual diversity - I think diversity of hires requires diversity of questions. It requires some bad interviews, but it creates some great interviews. I've had interviews and been interviewed in both settings; no regrets. White male, though, so hard to say.
Steko 11y ago
Perhaps that's not the end of the world. Is Google's primary burden to growth their quality of engineering? I doubt it, so weighing the entire interview on coding skills seems like a mistake, one that is compounded by creating a homogenous culture where everyone has the same blind spots.
outside1234 11y ago
The counter to your argument is that many of Google's products, like Google+, feel like something a shut-in would develop. No soul, no emotional appeal, and I suspect it comes out of this engineering is everything (at the expense of product people and creative types) mentality.
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pgodzin 11y ago

Here's the rationale: http://www.wired.com/2015/04/hire-like-google/ http://www.wired.com/2015/04/hire-like-google/

robryan 11y ago

"but there isn't much coming out of google thats pushing the envelope these days for me." What about things like the partnership with spacex and self driving cars?