hear hear... in the same boat and same experience with CS folks. The ones who 'get it' are really good, but many (most?) don't really fall in to that camp. B

hear hear... in the same boat and same experience with CS folks. The ones who 'get it' are really good, but many (most?) don't really fall in to that camp. But the same is true for self-taught folks too. There's a (growing?) divide between "cs" and "programming" and it really bugs me that people are assumed to be better at "programming" because of a CS degree. CS knowledge isn't irrelevant, but it's not always relevant to many aspects of actual day to day programming either. Perhaps it's sort of "arelevant"?