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Quit blaming the employers, if you want to set an arbitrary value for living wage then adjust the minimum wage paid or benefits granted so that individuals exce

Quit blaming the employers, if you want to set an arbitrary value for living wage then adjust the minimum wage paid or benefits granted so that individuals exceed that level. The Federal Minimum wage is 7.25, the minimum wage paid to those on Federal contracts is 10.10 Seems one hand of the feds knows something the other doesn't. If you want business to pay these wages then quit dancing around the political hot potato and do so. How about special local sales tax options to push up low paid worker's wages? That way all the altruistic types out there can contribute each time they purchase their seven dollar latte? How it works is this, for every hour the low paid worker works at an approved job the local government adds an amount sufficient to equal a living hourly wage they failed to mandate. Regardless of the down vote brigade, I do agree with another poster that we should look at many of these companies as removing the whole or partial burden to the tax payer. Yet we must also consider one other item, a great many people don't want to work, either from laziness, mental illness, or sense of entitlement. Which means some obtain jobs and put little effort into them going from one employer to another and off and on assistance. How do you pay a living wage to these people? People are all incredibly generous when it comes to telling others what they should pay employees without ever experiencing personnel issues at this skill level. Your in a whole different world here. If you want to identify those who are busting their butts to change their lives the easiest way is finding who is working more than one job.

ceejayoz 12y ago
> The Federal Minimum wage is 7.25, the minimum wage paid to those on Federal contracts is 10.10 Seems one hand of the feds knows something the other doesn't. The minimum wage on Federal contracts can be set by executive order by the President. Congress has to set the national one, hence the disparity. http://hr.blr.com/HR-news/Compensation/Minimum-Wage/Final-rule-raise-minimum-wage-federal-contractors http://hr.blr.com/HR-news/Compensation/Minimum-Wage/Final-ru...
Squarel 12y ago
The political hot potato gets tossed around because business claim that increasing the minimum wage will cause the end of civilization as we know it, despite evidence from other countries that this is not a thing. I am also not sure why you put "laziness, mental illness and a sense of entitlement" in with "people who do not want to work". Would you say "a great many people do not want to work because of laziness or disability". If not, then do not put mental illness in that bracket, quite aside from the fact that "A great many" is a vague term, with little backing from evidence
emodendroket 12y ago
> Yet we must also consider one other item, a great many people don't want to work, either from laziness, mental illness, or sense of entitlement. Which means some obtain jobs and put little effort into them going from one employer to another and off and on assistance. How do you pay a living wage to these people? Maybe you should read past the first paragraph?
NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago
> Quit blaming the employers, if you want to set an arbitrary value for living wage then adjust the minimum wage paid or benefits granted so that individuals exceed that level. This however, fails to solve the problem. If you have 10 people earning $7/hour minimum wage, but you need $15/hour to make it... raising the minimum wage to $15/hour won't fix the problem. The employers simply fire/layoff 5 of those, and pay about what they were paying before. All we've done is shift the same amount of money to fewer people. In time, it might be true that those 5 people earn enough to boost the economy, but those effects won't occur for months or years.
kleer001 12y ago
>Quit blaming the employers I don't think it's the employer's fault. They're just playing the game by the rules. >people don't want to work.. Sure, and some people can't work. >How do you pay a living wage to these people? How or why? How? The same way that other people get assistance. Why? I believe that there's a basic level of human decency we can and should afford to any lawful citizen regardless of their past or present. That we have enough to help life up those that can't or won't lift up themselves. Why do I believe that? A crusty old and totally thinned down Protestant work ethic that says "Everyone, down deep, has a job to do."

ceejayoz 12y ago

> The Federal Minimum wage is 7.25, the minimum wage paid to those on Federal contracts is 10.10 Seems one hand of the feds knows something the other doesn't. The minimum wage on Federal contracts can be set by executive order by the President. Congress has to set the national one, hence the disparity. http://hr.blr.com/HR-news/Compensation/Minimum-Wage/Final-rule-raise-minimum-wage-federal-contractors http://hr.blr.com/HR-news/Compensation/Minimum-Wage/Final-ru...

Squarel 12y ago

The political hot potato gets tossed around because business claim that increasing the minimum wage will cause the end of civilization as we know it, despite evidence from other countries that this is not a thing. I am also not sure why you put "laziness, mental illness and a sense of entitlement" in with "people who do not want to work". Would you say "a great many people do not want to work because of laziness or disability". If not, then do not put mental illness in that bracket, quite aside from the fact that "A great many" is a vague term, with little backing from evidence

emodendroket 12y ago

> Yet we must also consider one other item, a great many people don't want to work, either from laziness, mental illness, or sense of entitlement. Which means some obtain jobs and put little effort into them going from one employer to another and off and on assistance. How do you pay a living wage to these people? Maybe you should read past the first paragraph?

NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago

> Quit blaming the employers, if you want to set an arbitrary value for living wage then adjust the minimum wage paid or benefits granted so that individuals exceed that level. This however, fails to solve the problem. If you have 10 people earning $7/hour minimum wage, but you need $15/hour to make it... raising the minimum wage to $15/hour won't fix the problem. The employers simply fire/layoff 5 of those, and pay about what they were paying before. All we've done is shift the same amount of money to fewer people. In time, it might be true that those 5 people earn enough to boost the economy, but those effects won't occur for months or years.

kleer001 12y ago

>Quit blaming the employers I don't think it's the employer's fault. They're just playing the game by the rules. >people don't want to work.. Sure, and some people can't work. >How do you pay a living wage to these people? How or why? How? The same way that other people get assistance. Why? I believe that there's a basic level of human decency we can and should afford to any lawful citizen regardless of their past or present. That we have enough to help life up those that can't or won't lift up themselves. Why do I believe that? A crusty old and totally thinned down Protestant work ethic that says "Everyone, down deep, has a job to do."