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I think the natural tendency for most women to care for other people is determined by their usually higher level of oxytocin than men... EDIT: the hormone rela

I think the natural tendency for most women to care for other people is determined by their usually higher level of oxytocin than men... EDIT: the hormone related to care-giving behavior is oxytocin and not progesterone

cmiles74 12y ago
I think this an example of the overly-simplistic logic that kept women from voting. It still happens today, CNN pulled a sexist story that attempted to link women's ovulation with the way they would vote. http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/25/after-reader-backlash-cnn-axes-article-about-how-hormones-affect-womens-votes/ http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/25/after-reader-backlash-cnn-...
- 2510c39011c5 12y ago
  I am not talking about suffrage, but in a usual scenario a woman has "higher level of progesterone" than man is a _fact_, isn't it? -- EDIT: the hormone related to care-giving behavior is oxytocin and not progesterone
  - cmiles74 12y ago
    My understanding was that you were trying to draw a causal relationship between levels of progesterone in a person's bloodstream and their tendency to care for other people. Further, I understood you to state that women have higher levels of progesterone in their system and, thusly, care more for others. It's the causal relationship between progesterone levels and how much people care for others that I find repugnant. It's reductive and simplistic and, I might add, entirely untrue. I do not believe that a side effect of progesterone ingestion is "increased caring for others".
    - 2510c39011c5 12y ago
      but a higher level of oxytocin in a mother's body is directly related to the survival chance of the mother's immediate offspring -- this is not a _casual_ relationship, correct? -- EDIT 1: sorry if my comment makes you feel repugnant...my original intention is just to state what I think as fact per the issue in question... EDIT 2: my mistake...the hormone related to care-giving behavior is oxytocin and not progesterone...but still, woman usually has higher level of oxytocin than man...
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- mariodiana 12y ago
  Many suffragettes used the same kind of logic, but to argue the other end of the issue. When women were agitating for the vote, in many cases their rationale was that women brought a different perspective and set of sensibilities than that of men. Some even argued that women were more moral.

cmiles74 12y ago

I think this an example of the overly-simplistic logic that kept women from voting. It still happens today, CNN pulled a sexist story that attempted to link women's ovulation with the way they would vote. http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/25/after-reader-backlash-cnn-axes-article-about-how-hormones-affect-womens-votes/ http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/25/after-reader-backlash-cnn-...

2510c39011c5 12y ago
I am not talking about suffrage, but in a usual scenario a woman has "higher level of progesterone" than man is a _fact_, isn't it? -- EDIT: the hormone related to care-giving behavior is oxytocin and not progesterone
- cmiles74 12y ago
  My understanding was that you were trying to draw a causal relationship between levels of progesterone in a person's bloodstream and their tendency to care for other people. Further, I understood you to state that women have higher levels of progesterone in their system and, thusly, care more for others. It's the causal relationship between progesterone levels and how much people care for others that I find repugnant. It's reductive and simplistic and, I might add, entirely untrue. I do not believe that a side effect of progesterone ingestion is "increased caring for others".
  - 2510c39011c5 12y ago
    but a higher level of oxytocin in a mother's body is directly related to the survival chance of the mother's immediate offspring -- this is not a _casual_ relationship, correct? -- EDIT 1: sorry if my comment makes you feel repugnant...my original intention is just to state what I think as fact per the issue in question... EDIT 2: my mistake...the hormone related to care-giving behavior is oxytocin and not progesterone...but still, woman usually has higher level of oxytocin than man...
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mariodiana 12y ago
Many suffragettes used the same kind of logic, but to argue the other end of the issue. When women were agitating for the vote, in many cases their rationale was that women brought a different perspective and set of sensibilities than that of men. Some even argued that women were more moral.