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A few suggestions to put yourself on an even playing field with women. * Focus your job search on assistant professor positions at universities rather than not

by loudmax 12y ago

A few suggestions to put yourself on an even playing field with women. * Focus your job search on assistant professor positions at universities rather than notoriously selective tech companies. * Make it understood that you may need at least three months of paternity leave should you become a parent. * Reduce your salary requirement to about 80 cents on the dollar.

dijit 12y ago
if you remove the last point you'll have an argument. but the gender gap has been widely and publicly disproved, females in the same industry as men tend to earn -more- money than their male brethren. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-ga...
- ceejayoz 12y ago
  I hope you have better citations for the gender gap being disproved than a HuffPost op-ed by someone from the American Enterprise Institute.
  - dijit 12y ago
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303532704579483752909957472 http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014240527023035327045794837... http://mises.org/library/what%E2%80%99s-behind-gender-wage-gap http://mises.org/library/what%E2%80%99s-behind-gender-wage-g... http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/time-to-ditch-this-obsession-with-the-gender-pay-gap/16759 http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/time-to-ditch-t... http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete... http://theconversation.com/defending-the-indefensible-myths-about-the-gender-pay-gap-37919 http://theconversation.com/defending-the-indefensible-myths-... http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-do... http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/04/16/its-time-that-we-end-the-equal-pay-myth/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/04/16/its-time-tha... http://billmoyers.com/2014/04/08/debunking-the-myth-of-a-mythical-gender-pay-gap/ http://billmoyers.com/2014/04/08/debunking-the-myth-of-a-myt... http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-the-gender-pay-gap/2014/07/25/9e5cff34-fcd5-11e3-8176-f2c941cf35f1_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-the-... http://blog.independent.org/2015/04/07/the-gender-wage-gap-a-myth-that-just-wont-die/ http://blog.independent.org/2015/04/07/the-gender-wage-gap-a... I'm not being a prick, but I picked the first article that appeared on google.. there are many more and, like I said.. it's -widely- disproven. I can't reply to the posters below, a scientific paper, sure: http://www.pezzottaitejournals.net/index.php/IJOBMP/article/view/1870 http://www.pezzottaitejournals.net/index.php/IJOBMP/article/...
    - ceejayoz 12y ago
      A bunch of uncited op-ed pieces (at least one from the same HuffPost/AEI author) is not the same as proof. You've demonstrated only that it's widely disputed by a bunch of op-eds (which you can also say about climate change, evolution, and the round-Earth theory). Going through the list: Opinion. Mises.org lol. Opinion (and UK). Opinion. "Statistics are wrong". AEI opinion. Opinion. Not sure why you included the billmoyers.com piece, it argues the gap exists. Opinion. Opinion.
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      - MollyR 12y ago
        There is a lot of misinformation about this. I believe it is on purpose for political reasons. http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-77-cent-exaggeration/ http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-77-cent-exaggeration...
    - loudmax 12y ago
      From one of the articles you cited: Every year on Equal Pay Day, while some Americans lament the fact that in 2014 women still earn around 20 percent less than men, others perform intellectual gymnastics to deny that a gender pay gap exists, or to blame women themselves — and the “choices” they make — for its persistence. ... As Pamela Coukos, a senior program advisor at the Department of Labor, wrote in 2012, “studies consistently conclude that discrimination is the best explanation of the remaining difference in pay.”
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      - MollyR 12y ago
        Pamela Coukos, June 7, 2012 has also said "Economists generally attribute about 40% of the pay gap to discrimination – making about 60% explained by differences between workers or their jobs" Personally, It sounds like she's being a bit disingenuous.

by loudmax 12y ago

dijit 12y ago

if you remove the last point you'll have an argument. but the gender gap has been widely and publicly disproved, females in the same industry as men tend to earn -more- money than their male brethren. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-gap_b_2073804.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christina-hoff-sommers/wage-ga...

ceejayoz 12y ago
I hope you have better citations for the gender gap being disproved than a HuffPost op-ed by someone from the American Enterprise Institute.
- dijit 12y ago
  http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303532704579483752909957472 http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014240527023035327045794837... http://mises.org/library/what%E2%80%99s-behind-gender-wage-gap http://mises.org/library/what%E2%80%99s-behind-gender-wage-g... http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/time-to-ditch-this-obsession-with-the-gender-pay-gap/16759 http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/time-to-ditch-t... http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete... http://theconversation.com/defending-the-indefensible-myths-about-the-gender-pay-gap-37919 http://theconversation.com/defending-the-indefensible-myths-... http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-do... http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/04/16/its-time-that-we-end-the-equal-pay-myth/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/04/16/its-time-tha... http://billmoyers.com/2014/04/08/debunking-the-myth-of-a-mythical-gender-pay-gap/ http://billmoyers.com/2014/04/08/debunking-the-myth-of-a-myt... http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-the-gender-pay-gap/2014/07/25/9e5cff34-fcd5-11e3-8176-f2c941cf35f1_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-the-... http://blog.independent.org/2015/04/07/the-gender-wage-gap-a-myth-that-just-wont-die/ http://blog.independent.org/2015/04/07/the-gender-wage-gap-a... I'm not being a prick, but I picked the first article that appeared on google.. there are many more and, like I said.. it's -widely- disproven. I can't reply to the posters below, a scientific paper, sure: http://www.pezzottaitejournals.net/index.php/IJOBMP/article/view/1870 http://www.pezzottaitejournals.net/index.php/IJOBMP/article/...
  - ceejayoz 12y ago
    A bunch of uncited op-ed pieces (at least one from the same HuffPost/AEI author) is not the same as proof. You've demonstrated only that it's widely disputed by a bunch of op-eds (which you can also say about climate change, evolution, and the round-Earth theory). Going through the list: Opinion. Mises.org lol. Opinion (and UK). Opinion. "Statistics are wrong". AEI opinion. Opinion. Not sure why you included the billmoyers.com piece, it argues the gap exists. Opinion. Opinion.
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    - MollyR 12y ago
      There is a lot of misinformation about this. I believe it is on purpose for political reasons. http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-77-cent-exaggeration/ http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-77-cent-exaggeration...
  - loudmax 12y ago
    From one of the articles you cited: Every year on Equal Pay Day, while some Americans lament the fact that in 2014 women still earn around 20 percent less than men, others perform intellectual gymnastics to deny that a gender pay gap exists, or to blame women themselves — and the “choices” they make — for its persistence. ... As Pamela Coukos, a senior program advisor at the Department of Labor, wrote in 2012, “studies consistently conclude that discrimination is the best explanation of the remaining difference in pay.”
    - deleted 12y ago
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    - MollyR 12y ago
      Pamela Coukos, June 7, 2012 has also said "Economists generally attribute about 40% of the pay gap to discrimination – making about 60% explained by differences between workers or their jobs" Personally, It sounds like she's being a bit disingenuous.