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It's only going to increase the morale of the 70 employees receiving the wage increase. I suspect it will cause some degree of resentment in the rest of the com

It's only going to increase the morale of the 70 employees receiving the wage increase. I suspect it will cause some degree of resentment in the rest of the company. It also removes the incentive to improve for the lower tiers, since they have further to move up the ladder before they see an increase in pay. Personally, I think it's a noble but foolish move.

tannk11001 12y ago
> I suspect it will cause some degree of resentment in the rest of the company. Why is that? While some people might be that petty, it's very possible that Gravity never hired those kinds of people in the first place. > It also removes the incentive to improve for the lower tiers, since they have further to move up the ladder before they see an increase in pay. Why is that? I don't think the idea here is to raise everybody's wage and then institute some kind of 30 year wage freeze. It's to establish a baseline living wage so that none of your employees need to be hustling for other opportunities just to pay their living expenses. They can focus on their work and their lives. Rewarding exceptional behavior is a small cost once that's out of that way, and I don't see why we shouldn't expect to see it here.
- abandonliberty 12y ago
  >While some people might be that petty, it's very possible that Gravity never hired those kinds of people in the first place. Yes, that petty university graduate with thousands of dollars of debt and many years invested in his craft should just be a better person. Until the world is a very different place, return on investment is a huge factor in people's career.
- digitalabyss 12y ago
  > Why is that? While some people might be that petty, it's very possible that Gravity never hired those kinds of people in the first place. It may be petty for someone making several hundred thousand a year to resent someone who's market value being 30-40K being bumped up to 70K but for the vast majority of college graduates that is a slap in the face. Your giving everybody the rewards they worked their asses off for. I don't consider that petty, I consider that basic human disposition. Especially in a place like a credit card payment processor. I doubt many people working there go home and take pride in telling their family and friends about the work they did that day and how its making the world a better place. The majority of them are probably working for the paycheck. Now don't get me wrong. I do admire the guy for what he is doing. Its a great selfless act. But I'm just saying its completely reasonable and understandable for those employees who where currently making ~ 70K to feel resentment and it does not make the petty or bad people. I would hope they thought this side effect through and have plans to deal with it. Since its not going to just be one or two bad apples but the vast majority of people in that position.
  - vidarh 12y ago
    A good chunk of college graduates will never see that kind of pay. If you think people only go to college to make more money, you need to think again. Many careers for college graduates pay below average, and people knowingly still go for them. E.g. in the UK a prime example is law school. The average pay for a UK solicitor is well below the national median salary.
lotsofmangos 12y ago
If I was running a company, anyone who was resentful of the lowest paid workers getting a raise, I'd be more than happy to pay them to leave.
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hobarrera 12y ago
Yeah, I was thinking something similar. All those who had to go through a lot of effort to get a job requiring higher education, are now earning the same as those who put less effort. They're certainly not going to by happy about this.
spacemanmatt 12y ago
Mankind is foolish and often rewarded for it. I don't yet know how I'd feel about my company abruptly deciding to do the right thing on wages. It's hypothetical though, since I'm with a small outfit that has few if any sub-$70k staff. Not sure if HR and exec assistants are making quite that.
chisleu 12y ago
I don't think so. If they were happy enough not to quit before, they are even happier now. In fact, they might be so happy with their job that they want to improve so they aren't replaced with the better candidates the job is going to attract now that it is paying much more.

tannk11001 12y ago

> I suspect it will cause some degree of resentment in the rest of the company. Why is that? While some people might be that petty, it's very possible that Gravity never hired those kinds of people in the first place. > It also removes the incentive to improve for the lower tiers, since they have further to move up the ladder before they see an increase in pay. Why is that? I don't think the idea here is to raise everybody's wage and then institute some kind of 30 year wage freeze. It's to establish a baseline living wage so that none of your employees need to be hustling for other opportunities just to pay their living expenses. They can focus on their work and their lives. Rewarding exceptional behavior is a small cost once that's out of that way, and I don't see why we shouldn't expect to see it here.

abandonliberty 12y ago
>While some people might be that petty, it's very possible that Gravity never hired those kinds of people in the first place. Yes, that petty university graduate with thousands of dollars of debt and many years invested in his craft should just be a better person. Until the world is a very different place, return on investment is a huge factor in people's career.
digitalabyss 12y ago
> Why is that? While some people might be that petty, it's very possible that Gravity never hired those kinds of people in the first place. It may be petty for someone making several hundred thousand a year to resent someone who's market value being 30-40K being bumped up to 70K but for the vast majority of college graduates that is a slap in the face. Your giving everybody the rewards they worked their asses off for. I don't consider that petty, I consider that basic human disposition. Especially in a place like a credit card payment processor. I doubt many people working there go home and take pride in telling their family and friends about the work they did that day and how its making the world a better place. The majority of them are probably working for the paycheck. Now don't get me wrong. I do admire the guy for what he is doing. Its a great selfless act. But I'm just saying its completely reasonable and understandable for those employees who where currently making ~ 70K to feel resentment and it does not make the petty or bad people. I would hope they thought this side effect through and have plans to deal with it. Since its not going to just be one or two bad apples but the vast majority of people in that position.
- vidarh 12y ago
  A good chunk of college graduates will never see that kind of pay. If you think people only go to college to make more money, you need to think again. Many careers for college graduates pay below average, and people knowingly still go for them. E.g. in the UK a prime example is law school. The average pay for a UK solicitor is well below the national median salary.

lotsofmangos 12y ago

If I was running a company, anyone who was resentful of the lowest paid workers getting a raise, I'd be more than happy to pay them to leave.

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hobarrera 12y ago

Yeah, I was thinking something similar. All those who had to go through a lot of effort to get a job requiring higher education, are now earning the same as those who put less effort. They're certainly not going to by happy about this.

spacemanmatt 12y ago

Mankind is foolish and often rewarded for it. I don't yet know how I'd feel about my company abruptly deciding to do the right thing on wages. It's hypothetical though, since I'm with a small outfit that has few if any sub-$70k staff. Not sure if HR and exec assistants are making quite that.

chisleu 12y ago

I don't think so. If they were happy enough not to quit before, they are even happier now. In fact, they might be so happy with their job that they want to improve so they aren't replaced with the better candidates the job is going to attract now that it is paying much more.