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This depends on the company, though. I worked from home for a while for a company that didn't have a culture of allowing it. I talked my way into it due to some

This depends on the company, though. I worked from home for a while for a company that didn't have a culture of allowing it. I talked my way into it due to some unique circumstances. I found that I was actually chained to my desk more there than I've ever been for an office job, because I felt like I constantly had to "prove" that I was actually working and present. Any time I didn't answer an IM or phone call quickly could be spun into a discussion about me not being "available" because I was remote. And worse, they were in a different time zone, and expected me to be around from the time the work day started in their location, until the end of the work day in MY location. So it made for a long day. None of these things were outright stated, but certainly little comments or behaviors reinforced them. A healthy company wouldn't operate like that, but my point is just that you have to know what you're getting into if you're going to work from home.

diminoten 12y ago
> I felt like I constantly had to "prove" that I was actually working and present But that's arguably your fault, not the company's. > and expected me to be around from the time the work day started in their location, until the end of the work day in MY location As you said, that wasn't a stated expectation. > None of these things were outright stated, but certainly little comments or behaviors reinforced them. Perceived behaviors. Sounds like your own insecurities/paranoia made WFH a problem for you, not the company itself.
- zippergz 12y ago
  I'm not sure why you feel compelled to defend a company you don't know anything about, but suffice it to say that I've been in the workforce long enough to have plenty of perspective on this, and it was not paranoia.
  - diminoten 12y ago
    How would you even know if it were paranoia or not? The fact that you're not even willing to admit it could have possibly been on your end and not theirs is evidence to your inability to introspect...
    - wpietri 12y ago
      Despite HN having a high ambient arrogance level, this comment and the one above it really stand out for me. The guy was there. He lived it. What possible basis do you have for judging his mind and his life based on one paragraph?
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      - diminoten 12y ago
        > What possible basis do you have for judging his mind and his life based on one paragraph? The body of scientific work called human psychology. I genuinely hope it's not news to you that people are terrible at accurately assessing their own mental state.
        wpietri 12y ago
        Of course that's not news to me. It's also not news to him. Which is why he came to conclusion about this gradually and based on a variety of experience. Which he stated. But it is apparently news to you, which is why a) you act as if you're some sort of mega-genius, able to accurately assess people's lives based on a handful of words, and b) you haven't get gotten started on assessing the portions of your own mental state that drive you to act like this.
        diminoten 12y ago
        I am now very interested in why you've reacted so negatively to what I said. I get this kind of negative reaction most of the time on the Internet, and I'm not really sure why. To be clear, I meant no harm, anger, or ill will. What part(s) of the things I wrote here lead you to write "you act as if you're some sort of mega-genius"? Why do you think my own mental state is relevant to this discussion?
        wpietri 12y ago

diminoten 12y ago

> I felt like I constantly had to "prove" that I was actually working and present But that's arguably your fault, not the company's. > and expected me to be around from the time the work day started in their location, until the end of the work day in MY location As you said, that wasn't a stated expectation. > None of these things were outright stated, but certainly little comments or behaviors reinforced them. Perceived behaviors. Sounds like your own insecurities/paranoia made WFH a problem for you, not the company itself.

zippergz 12y ago
I'm not sure why you feel compelled to defend a company you don't know anything about, but suffice it to say that I've been in the workforce long enough to have plenty of perspective on this, and it was not paranoia.
- diminoten 12y ago
  How would you even know if it were paranoia or not? The fact that you're not even willing to admit it could have possibly been on your end and not theirs is evidence to your inability to introspect...
  - wpietri 12y ago
    Despite HN having a high ambient arrogance level, this comment and the one above it really stand out for me. The guy was there. He lived it. What possible basis do you have for judging his mind and his life based on one paragraph?
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    - diminoten 12y ago
      > What possible basis do you have for judging his mind and his life based on one paragraph? The body of scientific work called human psychology. I genuinely hope it's not news to you that people are terrible at accurately assessing their own mental state.
      - wpietri 12y ago
        Of course that's not news to me. It's also not news to him. Which is why he came to conclusion about this gradually and based on a variety of experience. Which he stated. But it is apparently news to you, which is why a) you act as if you're some sort of mega-genius, able to accurately assess people's lives based on a handful of words, and b) you haven't get gotten started on assessing the portions of your own mental state that drive you to act like this.
        diminoten 12y ago
        I am now very interested in why you've reacted so negatively to what I said. I get this kind of negative reaction most of the time on the Internet, and I'm not really sure why. To be clear, I meant no harm, anger, or ill will. What part(s) of the things I wrote here lead you to write "you act as if you're some sort of mega-genius"? Why do you think my own mental state is relevant to this discussion?
        wpietri 12y ago