I always find these discussions kind of odd, because there seems to be an unspoken assumption that the world is divided into 20yo CS grads and 40+ greybeards. T

I always find these discussions kind of odd, because there seems to be an unspoken assumption that the world is divided into 20yo CS grads and 40+ greybeards. The truth is that a lot of people get into software outside that track nowadays. Their initial ambition either becomes obviously unrealistic or increasingly unattractive[0]. Hence the phenomenon of boot camps, etc. I'm sure there are people who do twelve weeks of ultra intensive rails and think they're Dijkstra incarnate, of course, but most of us who came to development, as it were, sideways do not exhibit that kind of attitude. We respect our elders. I have no idea what it's like in the valley start up scene, but certainly in London I see very little buggering about of senior engineers: nevermind people considering me basically past it at the row old age of, er, 28. [0] this was me in 2010: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=obTNwPJvOI8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=obTNwPJvOI8