I am not downvoting you or flaming you, as you are trying to engage in a debate, not being "needlessly negative". I appreciate that...without honest discussion

I am not downvoting you or flaming you, as you are trying to engage in a debate, not being "needlessly negative". I appreciate that...without honest discussion this whole site is suspect, IMHO. I am all for homosexuality if that is your thing! But I'm sticking to my guns...for most of human history it was impossible for a man to have a child with a man, or a women with a women. That is a simple fact. The idea marriage wasn't a social construct with the primary purpose of creating a situation that would optimize the creating AND caring of offspring seems just as factual to me. Now of course, one can parse the whole of history and find exceptions and all that...that's fine, great in fact! And yes, there is no doubt in the Judeo-Christian framework, obedience meant control, but I believe in this case you are totally throwing out the real biological basis with the bullshit one.