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Regardless of anyone's opinion of GamerGate, they have uncovered quite a bit of unethical behavior on the Guardian's behalf. It's sad too because I really respe

Regardless of anyone's opinion of GamerGate, they have uncovered quite a bit of unethical behavior on the Guardian's behalf. It's sad too because I really respected their Snowden coverage (obviously!). http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/search?q=guardian&restrict_sr=on http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/search?q=guardian&res...

room271 12y ago
Really? I'm no expert on this, but it seems like the Guardian game journalists have been pretty transparent they don't like the GamerGate movement.
- exstudent2 12y ago
  Indeed, they have. That's part of the problem I think. Even if a journalist was reporting on a truly heinous group, like say the KKK, I would expect some objectivity. The Guardian has been very aggressive about their stance against GamerGate, often not labeling their articles as op-eds. For example, there are leaked emails from The Guardian with the subject Killallmen about how to handle GamerGate reporting: http://theralphretort.com/internal-email-shows-guardian-mind-made-gamergate/ http://theralphretort.com/internal-email-shows-guardian-mind... For those who don't know, Leigh Alexander was one of the journalists who wrote the most aggressive of the gamers are dead articles where she calls traditional gamers "obtuse shitslingers, these wailing hyper-consumers, these childish internet-arguers" among other things. http://archive.today/l1kTW http://archive.today/l1kTW To say she poured gasoline on the GamerGate fire is an understatement. The irony here is that The Ralph Retort is ALSO very unethical. Ralph isn't liked by many GamerGaters but in this case he did break this story and there was no other reporting on it. His outlet exists because mainstream media has created a vacuum by only reporting one side of the GamerGate story. He's an amateur and most definitely biased, but I'd expect more from the Guardian and if they were more objective, there wouldn't be as much a need for untrained reporting.
albedoa 12y ago
If you are going to bend over backwards to massage GamerGate into this conversation, you should disclose that your past account has been shadow banned and that your current account has the same trajectory. https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=exstudent https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=exstudent You know, if it's about transparency and ethics.
- exstudent2 12y ago
  I'm not bending over backwards. They asked a question. Yes, my account was banned, for very questionable reasons. Read my post history.

room271 12y ago

Really? I'm no expert on this, but it seems like the Guardian game journalists have been pretty transparent they don't like the GamerGate movement.

exstudent2 12y ago
Indeed, they have. That's part of the problem I think. Even if a journalist was reporting on a truly heinous group, like say the KKK, I would expect some objectivity. The Guardian has been very aggressive about their stance against GamerGate, often not labeling their articles as op-eds. For example, there are leaked emails from The Guardian with the subject Killallmen about how to handle GamerGate reporting: http://theralphretort.com/internal-email-shows-guardian-mind-made-gamergate/ http://theralphretort.com/internal-email-shows-guardian-mind... For those who don't know, Leigh Alexander was one of the journalists who wrote the most aggressive of the gamers are dead articles where she calls traditional gamers "obtuse shitslingers, these wailing hyper-consumers, these childish internet-arguers" among other things. http://archive.today/l1kTW http://archive.today/l1kTW To say she poured gasoline on the GamerGate fire is an understatement. The irony here is that The Ralph Retort is ALSO very unethical. Ralph isn't liked by many GamerGaters but in this case he did break this story and there was no other reporting on it. His outlet exists because mainstream media has created a vacuum by only reporting one side of the GamerGate story. He's an amateur and most definitely biased, but I'd expect more from the Guardian and if they were more objective, there wouldn't be as much a need for untrained reporting.

albedoa 12y ago

If you are going to bend over backwards to massage GamerGate into this conversation, you should disclose that your past account has been shadow banned and that your current account has the same trajectory. https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=exstudent https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=exstudent You know, if it's about transparency and ethics.

exstudent2 12y ago
I'm not bending over backwards. They asked a question. Yes, my account was banned, for very questionable reasons. Read my post history.