i think part of the challenge is how to count hours spent in the office but not coding. Some amount of discussion is necessary to get a group on the same page,

i think part of the challenge is how to count hours spent in the office but not coding. Some amount of discussion is necessary to get a group on the same page, and some time socializing about things that aren't work lubricates those discussions by letting people feel comfortable and familiar with their coworkers. That being said I worked remote (from home) for ~5 months and felt like a got a ton of work done, most days coding for 5-6 hours, 1/2 - 1 for communication, and 1 hr for technical reading / self-training. Currently i'm working at a shop that thinks i should arrive at the office at 9 and leave at 6. to me, that adds up to 45 hours a week (per above, imo lunch with coworkers is an important part of teamwork and counts as working): that's too many hours each week at a place that also strictly counts PTO days! and those two factors combined certainly discourage me from ever putting in more than the odd hour or two of self-study on the weekends & evenings.