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I never cared about Flash, but I absolutely loved developing in Flex. Was always sad that getting rid of Flash meant losing Flex, too.

aikah 12y ago
The resources allocated to Flex meant less resources for flash. Adobe lost focus with Flex. It meant the IDE never really evolved , the flash api was still full of unpatched bugged and the general quality went down. There is nothing left from Macromedia anyway,Flash is almost dead, Fireworks an excellent image editor for web projects is dead, Dreamweaver is a zombie. They eliminated all competition, but at the end of the day Adobe didn't won the web authoring tool market. They destroyed that sense of community Macromedia helped create. There is nothing like the Flash community anymore.
- th3iedkid 12y ago
  >>Dreamweaver is a zombie So true!Back in those days(circa 2008) i used to see people design decent and good websites(by those times standards) with ease.It was so cool .Dojo amongst others in those days could've only made it more cool!But yes, today its dead!
  - vollmond 12y ago
    I remember when I got going, I actually installed Dreamweaver just for the snippets and help files. I'd code in Notepad++, but dive into Dreamweaver for help with anything I didn't understand. It was nice.
- bdcravens 12y ago
  > There is nothing left from Macromedia anyway ColdFusion is still sticking around, but its shelf life is open to debate
- frik 12y ago
  WYSIWYG HTML editors are dead, an incredible sad fact. Dreamweaver never advanced after Adobe bought Macromedia (beside UI color changes and minor upgrades), Microsoft killed FrontPage (trident engine) and the successors Web Expression 4, Adobe killed GoLive, Netscape/Mozilla killed Composer incl. their forks Nvu and KompoZer and BlueGriffon. Only SeaMonkey (the former Mozilla/Netscape Suite) still ships with the outdated editor. Microsoft Word 2010 still ships with Frontend 2003 HTML editor code for its "Web" view that produces broken HTML4 output. Outlook 2010+ now also use Word as HTML editor/viewer (based on Frontpage code). So nowadays, there are only two HTML editors with design view left SeaMonkey and Dreamweaver. Dreamweaver comes with an outdated and discontinued Opera 8 based pre HTML5 design-view (Opera browser engine has been discontinued and is nowadays just a Chrome based browser) and SeaMonkey's Composer and their forks Nvu/KompoZer/BlueGriffon haven't been updated for years and Mozilla Thunderbird basically dead too (its HTML email editor uses the same component). ContentEditable HTML5 API (WYSIWYG editor for HTML5) is broken in all browsers too and no one fixes the bugs!! - see the bugs listed there: http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/execCommand.html http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/execCommand.html , http://caniuse.com/#feat=contenteditable http://caniuse.com/#feat=contenteditable , https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/HTMLElement/contentEditable https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/HTMLElement... As ContentEditable is used in many online email services as HTML email editor like GMail (and used GoogleDocs v1) and online rich text editors there is a tiny little hope at least some browser developers fix ContentEditable bugs. Apple has an WYSIWYG editor on top of Webkit, it is used in their word processor "Pages". The open source community needs an WYSIWYG editor based on webkit/chromium or at least as bug-fixed ContentEditable.
  - wx196 12y ago
    Dreamweaver CC uses WebKit-based rendering engine: http://blogs.adobe.com/dreamweaver/2013/08/dwcc.html http://blogs.adobe.com/dreamweaver/2013/08/dwcc.html
testrun 12y ago
Flex is still in active development, it is now Apache Flex.
- vollmond 12y ago
  Wait, really? I had no idea! Off to check it out...

aikah 12y ago

The resources allocated to Flex meant less resources for flash. Adobe lost focus with Flex. It meant the IDE never really evolved , the flash api was still full of unpatched bugged and the general quality went down. There is nothing left from Macromedia anyway,Flash is almost dead, Fireworks an excellent image editor for web projects is dead, Dreamweaver is a zombie. They eliminated all competition, but at the end of the day Adobe didn't won the web authoring tool market. They destroyed that sense of community Macromedia helped create. There is nothing like the Flash community anymore.

th3iedkid 12y ago
>>Dreamweaver is a zombie So true!Back in those days(circa 2008) i used to see people design decent and good websites(by those times standards) with ease.It was so cool .Dojo amongst others in those days could've only made it more cool!But yes, today its dead!
- vollmond 12y ago
  I remember when I got going, I actually installed Dreamweaver just for the snippets and help files. I'd code in Notepad++, but dive into Dreamweaver for help with anything I didn't understand. It was nice.
bdcravens 12y ago
> There is nothing left from Macromedia anyway ColdFusion is still sticking around, but its shelf life is open to debate
frik 12y ago
WYSIWYG HTML editors are dead, an incredible sad fact. Dreamweaver never advanced after Adobe bought Macromedia (beside UI color changes and minor upgrades), Microsoft killed FrontPage (trident engine) and the successors Web Expression 4, Adobe killed GoLive, Netscape/Mozilla killed Composer incl. their forks Nvu and KompoZer and BlueGriffon. Only SeaMonkey (the former Mozilla/Netscape Suite) still ships with the outdated editor. Microsoft Word 2010 still ships with Frontend 2003 HTML editor code for its "Web" view that produces broken HTML4 output. Outlook 2010+ now also use Word as HTML editor/viewer (based on Frontpage code). So nowadays, there are only two HTML editors with design view left SeaMonkey and Dreamweaver. Dreamweaver comes with an outdated and discontinued Opera 8 based pre HTML5 design-view (Opera browser engine has been discontinued and is nowadays just a Chrome based browser) and SeaMonkey's Composer and their forks Nvu/KompoZer/BlueGriffon haven't been updated for years and Mozilla Thunderbird basically dead too (its HTML email editor uses the same component). ContentEditable HTML5 API (WYSIWYG editor for HTML5) is broken in all browsers too and no one fixes the bugs!! - see the bugs listed there: http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/execCommand.html http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/execCommand.html , http://caniuse.com/#feat=contenteditable http://caniuse.com/#feat=contenteditable , https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/HTMLElement/contentEditable https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/HTMLElement... As ContentEditable is used in many online email services as HTML email editor like GMail (and used GoogleDocs v1) and online rich text editors there is a tiny little hope at least some browser developers fix ContentEditable bugs. Apple has an WYSIWYG editor on top of Webkit, it is used in their word processor "Pages". The open source community needs an WYSIWYG editor based on webkit/chromium or at least as bug-fixed ContentEditable.
- wx196 12y ago
  Dreamweaver CC uses WebKit-based rendering engine: http://blogs.adobe.com/dreamweaver/2013/08/dwcc.html http://blogs.adobe.com/dreamweaver/2013/08/dwcc.html

testrun 12y ago

Flex is still in active development, it is now Apache Flex.

vollmond 12y ago
Wait, really? I had no idea! Off to check it out...