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Should the title be altered to reflect the actual price of the car? It starts at $75k (+$1200 in fees)

tlb 12y ago
I agree, subtracting the price of gasoline in a conventional car isn't what most people understand "price" to mean. Title changed from $55k to $75k.
- Swizec 12y ago
  Wait, the price of petrol over the life-time of a car (10+ years) is only $20k? Man, that's the best pitch I've ever heard to buy a nice sexy gas guzzler with great engine/exhaust noise.
  - tdicola 12y ago
    Act now since big V8s are kind of going out of style. BMW is dropping the V8 from its new M3 and going to a turbo I6, Cadillac's new full-size will have a twin turbo V6 instead of a V8, Mercedes is shrinking the size of its turbo V8 for AMG cars, and even the Mustang will have a turbo 4 cylinder option. In a few years it wouldn't surprise me to only see stuff like the Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, etc. have big 5+ liter V8s.
    - Swizec 12y ago
      I thought Mad Max was supposed to be dystopian sci-fi. This is a real bummer. Now if only I had the money (and/or a decent enough excuse) to buy a car.
    - yid 12y ago
      > In a few years it wouldn't surprise me to only see stuff like the Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, etc. have big 5+ liter V8s. I'm all for nostalgia, but have you driven the new turbos?
    - runamok 12y ago
      I know the corvette v8 has pretty decent gas mileage because it can turn off half the cylinders for economy and has a tall 6th gear.
    - threeseed 12y ago
      They aren't kind of going out of style they absolutely are. Buyers are very conscious of petrol pricing and being seen to be environmentally friendly. Being "that guy" with the V8 is no longer cool like it was in the 90s. It's why F1 moved to 1.6L turbo V6 with lots of talk about moving to 4 cylinders in the future. It's all being pushed by the car manufacturers who want R&D in those types of engines.
  - angkec 12y ago
    That's mostly likely true. Assuming you drive 12k miles per year and gas costs $4 per gallon for your 15 mpg premium european sports car. The price for gas over 10 years is: (12,000 / 15) * $4 * 10yrs = $32,000.
- threeseed 12y ago
  It's downright deceptive. Every car has different MPG numbers. You don't see them all having an "effective price" that takes this into account.
hspak 12y ago
Number is from Elon's tweet: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/586750504450916352 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/586750504450916352

tlb 12y ago

I agree, subtracting the price of gasoline in a conventional car isn't what most people understand "price" to mean. Title changed from $55k to $75k.

Swizec 12y ago
Wait, the price of petrol over the life-time of a car (10+ years) is only $20k? Man, that's the best pitch I've ever heard to buy a nice sexy gas guzzler with great engine/exhaust noise.
- tdicola 12y ago
  Act now since big V8s are kind of going out of style. BMW is dropping the V8 from its new M3 and going to a turbo I6, Cadillac's new full-size will have a twin turbo V6 instead of a V8, Mercedes is shrinking the size of its turbo V8 for AMG cars, and even the Mustang will have a turbo 4 cylinder option. In a few years it wouldn't surprise me to only see stuff like the Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, etc. have big 5+ liter V8s.
  - Swizec 12y ago
    I thought Mad Max was supposed to be dystopian sci-fi. This is a real bummer. Now if only I had the money (and/or a decent enough excuse) to buy a car.
  - yid 12y ago
    > In a few years it wouldn't surprise me to only see stuff like the Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, etc. have big 5+ liter V8s. I'm all for nostalgia, but have you driven the new turbos?
  - runamok 12y ago
    I know the corvette v8 has pretty decent gas mileage because it can turn off half the cylinders for economy and has a tall 6th gear.
  - threeseed 12y ago
    They aren't kind of going out of style they absolutely are. Buyers are very conscious of petrol pricing and being seen to be environmentally friendly. Being "that guy" with the V8 is no longer cool like it was in the 90s. It's why F1 moved to 1.6L turbo V6 with lots of talk about moving to 4 cylinders in the future. It's all being pushed by the car manufacturers who want R&D in those types of engines.
- angkec 12y ago
  That's mostly likely true. Assuming you drive 12k miles per year and gas costs $4 per gallon for your 15 mpg premium european sports car. The price for gas over 10 years is: (12,000 / 15) * $4 * 10yrs = $32,000.
threeseed 12y ago
It's downright deceptive. Every car has different MPG numbers. You don't see them all having an "effective price" that takes this into account.

hspak 12y ago

Number is from Elon's tweet: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/586750504450916352 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/586750504450916352