"I do wonder what Apple might have been, had Jobs had someone like Woz in senior management to push hacker culture at Apple." It was quite noticeable as Apple

"I do wonder what Apple might have been, had Jobs had someone like Woz in senior management to push hacker culture at Apple." It was quite noticeable as Apple moved from the ][e to the ][c, no slots. With the ][e I added an 80 column card to increase the usable screen space. The ][c was a closed box. The change from open Apple to closed Apple happened very early.