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> Any reason to believe any of this helps, other than 'common sense'? LMGTFY? > The problem with the achievement gap is trying to pretend there's no inborn ab

by biehl 12y ago

> Any reason to believe any of this helps, other than 'common sense'? LMGTFY? > The problem with the achievement gap is trying to pretend there's no inborn ability. There's always going to be an achievement gap. The schools should focus on marginal improvement, not average stats. I don't think anyone is pretending that there is no natural variation in ability - however, the natural variation seems like a poor excuse for bad food and fungus-ridden schools?

DanBC 12y ago
> LMGTFY? You made the claim. Do you have anything to support it?
- 1stop 12y ago
  You made a similarly unsupported claim about genes being the dominant factor. Care to provide a source for that?
  - doktrin 12y ago
    are you responding to the right poster?
  - DanBC 12y ago
    No, I didn't.
- biehl 12y ago
  Sorry the question was 'any reason ... ?' and searching on google will quickly verify that there is not only some reason but more than that.
  - Anderkent 12y ago
    Well, no it doesn't. For example searching for 'healthy school food lifetime outcomes' on google scholar brings up one clearly related study [1], but it's paywalled. It's also about the UK, not US. And having found the study elsewhere [2] finds that many of their claimed benefits are only significant at the p<0.1 level, which, really. It seems you expect me to spend 20 minutes validating each of your claims for you. I'm not going to produce your argument for you; if it's only your cached thought then just say so, it's fair enough. If you actually have studies backing your belief, it shouldn't be that hard for you to cite them. 1. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167629611000270 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167629611... 2. https://www.iser.essex.ac.uk/files/iser_working_papers/2009-01.pdf https://www.iser.essex.ac.uk/files/iser_working_papers/2009-...

by biehl 12y ago

DanBC 12y ago

> LMGTFY? You made the claim. Do you have anything to support it?

1stop 12y ago
You made a similarly unsupported claim about genes being the dominant factor. Care to provide a source for that?
- doktrin 12y ago
  are you responding to the right poster?
- DanBC 12y ago
  No, I didn't.
biehl 12y ago
Sorry the question was 'any reason ... ?' and searching on google will quickly verify that there is not only some reason but more than that.
- Anderkent 12y ago
  Well, no it doesn't. For example searching for 'healthy school food lifetime outcomes' on google scholar brings up one clearly related study [1], but it's paywalled. It's also about the UK, not US. And having found the study elsewhere [2] finds that many of their claimed benefits are only significant at the p<0.1 level, which, really. It seems you expect me to spend 20 minutes validating each of your claims for you. I'm not going to produce your argument for you; if it's only your cached thought then just say so, it's fair enough. If you actually have studies backing your belief, it shouldn't be that hard for you to cite them. 1. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167629611000270 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167629611... 2. https://www.iser.essex.ac.uk/files/iser_working_papers/2009-01.pdf https://www.iser.essex.ac.uk/files/iser_working_papers/2009-...