Yeah, they were pretty good until I used the Apple version... :) (Exception: MacOS 9 laptops, MacBooks pre-titanium) My phone before the iPhone was horrible,

Yeah, they were pretty good until I used the Apple version... :) (Exception: MacOS 9 laptops, MacBooks pre-titanium) My phone before the iPhone was horrible, though. Partly that was my fault for getting a Razr. The user interface somehow managed it so that my thumb was always in exactly the wrong spot for what I needed to push right now. It was a joyous day when I found someone to give that thing away to. (On the good side, it woke up two years after I stopped using it, plugging it in, etc. to give me an alarm I had set. Now that is a reliability!)