> This annoys me so much because you are essentially arguing that problems caused by refusing to read are problems caused by operating systems, and this really

> This annoys me so much because you are essentially arguing that problems caused by refusing to read are problems caused by operating systems, and this really isn't the case. This isn't something Apple has done a better job with either, it's just that the marketshare for Apple wasn't high enough for the malware vendors to bother with them. If you have to carefully uncheck a bunch of options to avoid killing your computer with malware, then yes, the operating system is at fault. These sort of dark design patterns shouldn't exist, and the OS should be designed so that it's harder to implement shady things like this. Yes, there is Mac malware out there, but Mac apps tend to have no installer at all, which is where most of the malware and crapware come from. It's harder to install some OS daemon when "installing" is just copying a file into your Applications folder. Mac apps almost never ask for permissions so I think users are more wary when the OS is asking weird stuff. And Malware is practically unheard of in the Linux/Free Software world. I trust "apt-get install" implicitly when dealing with the main Debian archives. > See, you're doing it again. You're not dealing with "Windows issues", you're dealing with issues on Windows boxes, caused by non-Windows problems. That's a reasonable distinction, I suppose. How about this: The Windows software community sucks. The product may be fine if you know your way around the horrible alleys where malware and crapware lie in wait, but for normal people, the whole external environment is designed to screw you and mangle your computer. Windows itself may be great, but the whole ecosystem is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.