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Related to this, how have people found running Yosemite compared to Mavericks, performance and compatibility-wise? Are you sorry you upgraded? (I'm asking for

by percept 12y ago

Related to this, how have people found running Yosemite compared to Mavericks, performance and compatibility-wise? Are you sorry you upgraded? (I'm asking for a friend.)

Osiris 12y ago
I upgraded. I haven't had any problems that I wasn't already having in Mavericks (Anyone else have kernel panics when sleeping with a thunderbolt monitor attached?).
- Sevrene 12y ago
  Yes! (although minus the thunderbolt monitor)
  - Osiris 12y ago
    I also have a problem with a Dual-link DVI adapter. If I sleep with it connected, at some point it wakes up and "kernel_task" takes up 100% CPU (all 8 cores) until I put it to sleep and wake it up again. Sucks coming down in the morning and finding my Macbook burning a hole in the desk.
- NathanKP 12y ago
  I haven't had any issues with that, and I have two thunderbolt monitors attached in daisy chain mode. The only kernel panics I've experienced so far have been Parallels Desktop bugs that crashed the system. I'm regularly stressing my Macbook Pro to the max running vagrant images through Parallel Desktop with full integration tests running inside, and this tends to be pretty effective at finding strange bugs in Parallels Desktop.
- mrchucklepants 12y ago
  I've been running with a Thunderbolt Display for a few years now with few problems. I've had zero problems on Yosemite.
jug 12y ago
Among other things upgrading (to 10.10.3) will do, it'll fix the issue in the article.
Alex3917 12y ago
My personal computer is a late 2008 MBP, and Yosemite runs fine on that. It's been upgraded to 8 gigs of ram, and that's enough to smoothly do dev work in vagrant environments.
- fmela 12y ago
  I have the exact same setup with 8GB of RAM, and it's still going strong. I wish I could upgrade to 16GB to extend its life even further.
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- nmc 12y ago
  Well, you have a reason now, have you not?
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    - cheald 12y ago
      Can you provide more info? FTA: "OS X 10.9.x and older remain vulnerable, since Apple decided not to patch these versions."
    - 3JPLW 12y ago
      Yes, but that security update doesn't include this patch. Apple confusingly lists the security updates in 10.10.3 and Security Update 2015-004 together, but not all items apply to 10.9. The very first item listed on the page is this Admin Framework bug, and it's only available for v10.10 to v10.10.2. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204659 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204659
- plorkyeran 12y ago
  Xcode 6.3 is out now and requires 10.10. I also waited as long as I could, so now I have a machine that's been installing Yosemite for the last 18 hours...
  - shepard 12y ago
    It's a known issue related to having many nonstandard files in /usr/local or something like that. Eg. If you are using brew. Google for it, or just wait patiently, it should finish at some point.
btgeekboy 12y ago
If you're seriously concerned, why not use an external drive of some sort and install Yosemite to it? (Bonus points: clone your internal disk to it first, and upgrade that.) Boot it up, test out your critical functions, and then update your main volume if it works out for you.
- Nexxxeh 12y ago
  Would using an external drive make it noticeably slower, making performance non-representative?
  - JustSomeNobody 12y ago
    Not if you get one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Portable-250GB-External-MU-PS250B/dp/B00RWXV8FE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428596708&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+external+ssd http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Portable-250GB-External-MU-PS2...
  - tlrobinson 12y ago
    That would depend on which interface and drive technologies you use. A SSD connected via Thunderbolt would likely be faster than an internal hard drive.
  - quicklyfrozen 12y ago
    This + SSD (Crucial IIRC) gives me 200+Mb/s write, 400+Mb/s read speeds: http://amzn.com/B00FCLG65U http://amzn.com/B00FCLG65U USB 3.0 is pretty fast. Without TRIM performance will probably degrade but that will take time.
- markcerqueira 12y ago
  You need to do the Bonus points version of your recommendation. Running an OS off an external will just make everything feel sluggish (unless you have a lightning enclosure and spare SSD laying around).
lultimouomo 12y ago
I recently got a mac mini that shipped with Yosemite. It has the nice feature of completely killing the WiFi interface when you attach a USB hub - googling around it seems a Yosemite bug. I have been told that also using bluetooth devices (such as the apple mouse) can trigger the same behaviour. So I'd say I'm sorry that the mac shipped with Yosemite, except that at least I received the fix for the privilege escalation bug.
- marcinx27 12y ago
  I had this bug plaguing me for a while. My WiFi connection would drop every fifteen minutes or so, requiring me to turn off the WiFi and then turn it on again. I was able to fix it by doing a clean install of Yosemite (from a bootable drive).
- julian_t 12y ago
  It isn't just Yosemite... I had exactly this behavior with Mavericks on a new MacBook last year. Fired up a Bluetooth mouse, and next time I opened the lid wireless had completely gone. I've managed to get it working after a fashion, although not reliably, and have come to the conclusion that Apple just don't do wireless well.

by percept 12y ago

Related to this, how have people found running Yosemite compared to Mavericks, performance and compatibility-wise? Are you sorry you upgraded? (I'm asking for a friend.)

Osiris 12y ago

I upgraded. I haven't had any problems that I wasn't already having in Mavericks (Anyone else have kernel panics when sleeping with a thunderbolt monitor attached?).

Sevrene 12y ago
Yes! (although minus the thunderbolt monitor)
- Osiris 12y ago
  I also have a problem with a Dual-link DVI adapter. If I sleep with it connected, at some point it wakes up and "kernel_task" takes up 100% CPU (all 8 cores) until I put it to sleep and wake it up again. Sucks coming down in the morning and finding my Macbook burning a hole in the desk.
NathanKP 12y ago
I haven't had any issues with that, and I have two thunderbolt monitors attached in daisy chain mode. The only kernel panics I've experienced so far have been Parallels Desktop bugs that crashed the system. I'm regularly stressing my Macbook Pro to the max running vagrant images through Parallel Desktop with full integration tests running inside, and this tends to be pretty effective at finding strange bugs in Parallels Desktop.
mrchucklepants 12y ago
I've been running with a Thunderbolt Display for a few years now with few problems. I've had zero problems on Yosemite.

jug 12y ago

Among other things upgrading (to 10.10.3) will do, it'll fix the issue in the article.

Alex3917 12y ago

My personal computer is a late 2008 MBP, and Yosemite runs fine on that. It's been upgraded to 8 gigs of ram, and that's enough to smoothly do dev work in vagrant environments.

fmela 12y ago
I have the exact same setup with 8GB of RAM, and it's still going strong. I wish I could upgrade to 16GB to extend its life even further.

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nmc 12y ago
Well, you have a reason now, have you not?
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  - cheald 12y ago
    Can you provide more info? FTA: "OS X 10.9.x and older remain vulnerable, since Apple decided not to patch these versions."
  - 3JPLW 12y ago
    Yes, but that security update doesn't include this patch. Apple confusingly lists the security updates in 10.10.3 and Security Update 2015-004 together, but not all items apply to 10.9. The very first item listed on the page is this Admin Framework bug, and it's only available for v10.10 to v10.10.2. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204659 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204659
plorkyeran 12y ago
Xcode 6.3 is out now and requires 10.10. I also waited as long as I could, so now I have a machine that's been installing Yosemite for the last 18 hours...
- shepard 12y ago
  It's a known issue related to having many nonstandard files in /usr/local or something like that. Eg. If you are using brew. Google for it, or just wait patiently, it should finish at some point.

btgeekboy 12y ago

If you're seriously concerned, why not use an external drive of some sort and install Yosemite to it? (Bonus points: clone your internal disk to it first, and upgrade that.) Boot it up, test out your critical functions, and then update your main volume if it works out for you.

Nexxxeh 12y ago
Would using an external drive make it noticeably slower, making performance non-representative?
- JustSomeNobody 12y ago
  Not if you get one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Portable-250GB-External-MU-PS250B/dp/B00RWXV8FE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428596708&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+external+ssd http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Portable-250GB-External-MU-PS2...
- tlrobinson 12y ago
  That would depend on which interface and drive technologies you use. A SSD connected via Thunderbolt would likely be faster than an internal hard drive.
- quicklyfrozen 12y ago
  This + SSD (Crucial IIRC) gives me 200+Mb/s write, 400+Mb/s read speeds: http://amzn.com/B00FCLG65U http://amzn.com/B00FCLG65U USB 3.0 is pretty fast. Without TRIM performance will probably degrade but that will take time.
markcerqueira 12y ago
You need to do the Bonus points version of your recommendation. Running an OS off an external will just make everything feel sluggish (unless you have a lightning enclosure and spare SSD laying around).

lultimouomo 12y ago

I recently got a mac mini that shipped with Yosemite. It has the nice feature of completely killing the WiFi interface when you attach a USB hub - googling around it seems a Yosemite bug. I have been told that also using bluetooth devices (such as the apple mouse) can trigger the same behaviour. So I'd say I'm sorry that the mac shipped with Yosemite, except that at least I received the fix for the privilege escalation bug.

marcinx27 12y ago
I had this bug plaguing me for a while. My WiFi connection would drop every fifteen minutes or so, requiring me to turn off the WiFi and then turn it on again. I was able to fix it by doing a clean install of Yosemite (from a bootable drive).
julian_t 12y ago
It isn't just Yosemite... I had exactly this behavior with Mavericks on a new MacBook last year. Fired up a Bluetooth mouse, and next time I opened the lid wireless had completely gone. I've managed to get it working after a fashion, although not reliably, and have come to the conclusion that Apple just don't do wireless well.