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So we are talking about, what, 13, 14 million dollars plus maybe court expenses, naively guessing? In any case, it's a bigger step for the people than it is as

by khoury 12y ago

So we are talking about, what, 13, 14 million dollars plus maybe court expenses, naively guessing? In any case, it's a bigger step for the people than it is as a harm for FB. I hope cases like this eventually make a difference in the course of tech evolution, if that's even a correct sentence. Power to the people, so to speak.

rmc 12y ago
Court could order Facebook to change the Like button.
- estefan 12y ago
  ...to a Meh button?
  - kagamine 12y ago
    No, the problem is that it isn't only a button, it's a tracker and it breaks EU-law. Right now it is "meh - other people's, other countries privacy laws" from FB, we'll see if the EU stands up for European people against US data collection without permission. I honestly hope this damages FBs reputation and leads to a decline in user numbers if only for other (better, I hope) service to emerge. Something that has a moral/ethical compass.
  - rmc 12y ago
    To remove any tracking. Changing the image & JS to a cookie-less domain. To have it only send data when the user clicks on it. Or at the most extreme, to disable the Like button entirly.
matt4077 12y ago
I'm not sure about the intricacies of Austrian law, but I remember quite a few cases in consumer law where after an initial court case, thousands of other people used it precedent to get similar compensation. Not sure if that would include all Facebook users in this case, or only people who deleted their account as this plaintiff did. It's also part of a larger effort to get a ruling on Facebook's use of the 'safe harbour' provision. If that is successful, FB does have quite the problem.
rasz_pl 12y ago
sure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp_v_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp_v_Commission all in all almost $3B in fines. This isnt FCC/FTC fining AT&A spare change for stealing billions. EC doesnt fuck around.
- icebraining 12y ago
  Sure, but this lawsuit wasn't launched by the EC.

by khoury 12y ago

rmc 12y ago

Court could order Facebook to change the Like button.

estefan 12y ago
...to a Meh button?
- kagamine 12y ago
  No, the problem is that it isn't only a button, it's a tracker and it breaks EU-law. Right now it is "meh - other people's, other countries privacy laws" from FB, we'll see if the EU stands up for European people against US data collection without permission. I honestly hope this damages FBs reputation and leads to a decline in user numbers if only for other (better, I hope) service to emerge. Something that has a moral/ethical compass.
- rmc 12y ago
  To remove any tracking. Changing the image & JS to a cookie-less domain. To have it only send data when the user clicks on it. Or at the most extreme, to disable the Like button entirly.

matt4077 12y ago

I'm not sure about the intricacies of Austrian law, but I remember quite a few cases in consumer law where after an initial court case, thousands of other people used it precedent to get similar compensation. Not sure if that would include all Facebook users in this case, or only people who deleted their account as this plaintiff did. It's also part of a larger effort to get a ruling on Facebook's use of the 'safe harbour' provision. If that is successful, FB does have quite the problem.

rasz_pl 12y ago

sure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp_v_Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp_v_Commission all in all almost $3B in fines. This isnt FCC/FTC fining AT&A spare change for stealing billions. EC doesnt fuck around.

icebraining 12y ago
Sure, but this lawsuit wasn't launched by the EC.