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Easy solution would be something like what we have here in Finland with alcohol. Allow sales but ban all marketing. There done.

by doikor 12y ago

higherpurpose 12y ago
Agreed that this should be the solution. Let's not repeat another century of tobacco deaths. Yet here we are with companies advertising their their food contains marijuana or that smoking marijuana is "cool" (sound familiar?).
- joshstrange 12y ago
  I'm all for banning ads for drugs (alcohol is a drug) and I support plain packaging for cigs (and other drugs) but let's not compare tobacco to weed as 1:1's. Marijuana appears to have REAL medical uses unlike tobacco. I know, I know there was a time where "doctors" said tobacco was fine for you or even good for you [0] but I don't feel like it's a fair comparison to what doctors are saying today about weed. I'd like to think we've gotten better as a planet about filtering out quack-claims about things like this. No doubt there are people claiming weed to be the end-all-be-all, cure-all drug and I agree those people are crazy or seriously misinformed but I do believe there are proven, legitimate uses of marijuana in regards to medicine and the medical profession. [0] http://www.healio.com/hematology-oncology/news/print/hemonc-today/%7B241d62a7-fe6e-4c5b-9fed-a33cc6e4bd7c%7D/cigarettes-were-once-physician-tested-approved http://www.healio.com/hematology-oncology/news/print/hemonc-...
GFischer 12y ago
That's where we're heading in Uruguay with alcohol, tobacco and marijuana (all three are legal but advertising is restricted or forbidden for tobacco and marijuana, with alcohol to come soon). The government is facing a huge lawsuit though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Morris_v._Uruguay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Morris_v._Uruguay
renox 12y ago
Done? France also ban advertisement on alcohol and cigarettes but the number of smokers isn't decreasing.. But I agree, drug use should be legalized but of course advertising for them (ANY kind of advertising) should be forbidden: note that this is problematic as many movie could be considered as a kind of advertising for alcohol, cigarettes, etc.
bko 12y ago
I don't know how effective or practical banning advertising would be. I'm reminded of the song CoCo by O.T. Genasis [0] that proclaims the rappers love for cocaine. That being said, drugs, including more dangerous drugs, are already very much part of our culture and glorified everywhere from music to movies. De-criminalizing them is the obvious course of path for harm-reduction and diminishing the influence of organized crime. [0] http://genius.com/Ot-genasis-coco-lyrics http://genius.com/Ot-genasis-coco-lyrics
- math0ne 12y ago
  Interestingly if you really want to look into that song and the culture that created it, it is extremely anti cocaine use. It's all about selling and profiting from cocaine.
belorn 12y ago
Banning marketing is one step, but there is more. Add prohibiting taxes. With the added taxes, direct a large portion to projects which is intended to prevent new users and educate the population. Ban the use in public areas. Make it social unacceptable behavior and shunned during day light. Create regulations and complex bureaucracy for those who want to sell the product. Create state controlled monopolies if possible, which then can advertise against purchases. For tobacco, you can have warning labels that covers most or the whole package. (Examples are taken from Sweden).
- eru 12y ago
  Good ideas. Though, you can only raise taxes so much before going via the black market becomes viable again. (That limit is pretty high, though.)

Easy solution would be something like what we have here in Finland with alcohol. Allow sales but ban all marketing. There done.

by doikor 12y ago

Easy solution would be something like what we have here in Finland with alcohol. Allow sales but ban all marketing. There done.

higherpurpose 12y ago

Agreed that this should be the solution. Let's not repeat another century of tobacco deaths. Yet here we are with companies advertising their their food contains marijuana or that smoking marijuana is "cool" (sound familiar?).

joshstrange 12y ago
I'm all for banning ads for drugs (alcohol is a drug) and I support plain packaging for cigs (and other drugs) but let's not compare tobacco to weed as 1:1's. Marijuana appears to have REAL medical uses unlike tobacco. I know, I know there was a time where "doctors" said tobacco was fine for you or even good for you [0] but I don't feel like it's a fair comparison to what doctors are saying today about weed. I'd like to think we've gotten better as a planet about filtering out quack-claims about things like this. No doubt there are people claiming weed to be the end-all-be-all, cure-all drug and I agree those people are crazy or seriously misinformed but I do believe there are proven, legitimate uses of marijuana in regards to medicine and the medical profession. [0] http://www.healio.com/hematology-oncology/news/print/hemonc-today/%7B241d62a7-fe6e-4c5b-9fed-a33cc6e4bd7c%7D/cigarettes-were-once-physician-tested-approved http://www.healio.com/hematology-oncology/news/print/hemonc-...

GFischer 12y ago

That's where we're heading in Uruguay with alcohol, tobacco and marijuana (all three are legal but advertising is restricted or forbidden for tobacco and marijuana, with alcohol to come soon). The government is facing a huge lawsuit though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Morris_v._Uruguay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Morris_v._Uruguay

renox 12y ago

Done? France also ban advertisement on alcohol and cigarettes but the number of smokers isn't decreasing.. But I agree, drug use should be legalized but of course advertising for them (ANY kind of advertising) should be forbidden: note that this is problematic as many movie could be considered as a kind of advertising for alcohol, cigarettes, etc.

bko 12y ago

I don't know how effective or practical banning advertising would be. I'm reminded of the song CoCo by O.T. Genasis [0] that proclaims the rappers love for cocaine. That being said, drugs, including more dangerous drugs, are already very much part of our culture and glorified everywhere from music to movies. De-criminalizing them is the obvious course of path for harm-reduction and diminishing the influence of organized crime. [0] http://genius.com/Ot-genasis-coco-lyrics http://genius.com/Ot-genasis-coco-lyrics

math0ne 12y ago
Interestingly if you really want to look into that song and the culture that created it, it is extremely anti cocaine use. It's all about selling and profiting from cocaine.

belorn 12y ago

Banning marketing is one step, but there is more. Add prohibiting taxes. With the added taxes, direct a large portion to projects which is intended to prevent new users and educate the population. Ban the use in public areas. Make it social unacceptable behavior and shunned during day light. Create regulations and complex bureaucracy for those who want to sell the product. Create state controlled monopolies if possible, which then can advertise against purchases. For tobacco, you can have warning labels that covers most or the whole package. (Examples are taken from Sweden).

eru 12y ago
Good ideas. Though, you can only raise taxes so much before going via the black market becomes viable again. (That limit is pretty high, though.)