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Let me try to offer a correction or at least a clarification. :) First, you didn't quote this key section of Google's TOS: "You retain ownership of any intelle
by declan 12y ago
Let me try to offer a correction or at least a clarification. :)
First, you didn't quote this key section of Google's TOS: "You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours." That's a significant limitation.
Second, Apple's TOS is nearly word-for-word identical to the portion you excerpted above:
"By submitting or posting such Content on areas of the Service that are accessible by the public or other users with whom you consent to share such Content, you grant Apple a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content on the Service solely for the purpose for which such Content was submitted or made available, without any compensation or obligation to you" (https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/en/terms.html https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/en/term...)
Third, the general TOS has to be read in concert with the privacy policy and any product-specific privacy/TOS. Those exist for Google+, not sure about photos.
Fourth, there's no evidence Google is doing what you suggest (ad targeting, etc.). What is happening is shared endorsements: https://support.google.com/plus/answer/3403513?hl=en&p=plus_sesetting&rd=1 https://support.google.com/plus/answer/3403513?hl=en&p=plus_... But note Apple has plenty of leeway to do what it wants: "Apple reserves the right at any time to modify this Agreement and to impose new or additional terms or conditions..."
To actually read and understand a TOS/privacy policy takes some time -- so this isn't a comprehensive response. But maybe it helps...
- mturmon 12y agoYou're right. I think the words in the Apple TOS have a different meaning, but unpacking that would take some time, and be liable to error as well!
- zaroth 12y agoI see a glaring difference between the two. Apple reads like a license to provide you your own photos for your own personal use. Google reads like a license for them to basically do whatever they want to do with them in the course of their business, and the business of anyone they "work with"! Apple; you grant Apple a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to use... on the Service solely for the purpose for which such Content was submitted or made available Google; you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use... The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. Frankly, I do not want Google, or anyone they work with, using my personal photos or intellectual property to improve their services, to promote services, or to develop new services. What does Google's "Services" even mean in this context? Does it extend to Adwords? Chrome Store? Everyone reserves the right to modify their agreements, so I think that's a strawman. If and when Apple modifies their ToS to allow them (and those they work with) to use my personal property for promoting, improving, or developing new "Services", then they will have stooped to the same level.