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>Uhh they literally don't release updates that often, so you'll have to explain that one to us... Microsoft most certainly releases reboot updates more often t

by thoth 11y ago

>Uhh they literally don't release updates that often, so you'll have to explain that one to us... Microsoft most certainly releases reboot updates more often than the once a month patch Tuesday. I'm not sure if they apply to the OP's specific system, Win2008 R2, but I am rebooting my various computers more than once a month. My system's update history shows two fixes around Mar 27 (KB2976978 and KB3048778) and one of those required a reboot. I remember because I had to do it. This pattern goes back in time quite far - bunch of fixes for patch Tuesday (requires a reboot), and a handful of off-cycle recommended/optional fixes, which often require a reboot too. If you apply updates as they appear (and take the optional and recommended ones) you will DEFINITELY be rebooting more than once a month.

Someone1234 11y ago
You're conflating Windows 8 and Windows Server, the two updates you specifically noted are Windows 8 updates. The first one is a Windows 10 pre-checker (KB2976978), so zero chance of Windows Server getting it, and the second one (KB3048778) isn't a critical update (solves a minor Explorer bug) so would have to be manually installed. You likely have "Give me Recommended updates the way I receive important updates" checked in the Windows Update GPO/applet and also just seem to think there is no difference on how Windows Server and Windows Desktop are patched (which there is, massively). A Server 2012 box I happen to have open, has restart events that are corresponding with patch Tuesdays but months are often skipped. You'd likely see a little more if you weren't using Server Core, but nothing like the number you're describing. The thing doesn't even install updates between monthly pushes. I'm seeing approx. 4-5 a year. Which is still much higher than Linux, but nothing like Windows Desktop.
- thoth 11y ago
  I'm not conflating anything - I even said I wasn't sure if they applied to Win2008, did you miss reading that? I was challenging the general claim that releases that require reboots don't occur more often than once a month. Now if you were specifically addressing this for Win2008 R2, well I'll give you that. I was too lazy to spin that system up and dig through its update history. The GENERAL assumption that the only time you need to reboot is once a month for patch tuesday isn't really accurate. Now for the SPECIFIC case of Win2008 R2, many years after its release, perhaps that is true. And FWIW, thanks for your concern about my systems, but it is irrelevant and incorrect because you do not understand my particular operating environment. One side task I do is build VM's for everybody else in my group to use, so while I do not have auto-updates checked, I wind up getting all updates for every language and OS we are interested in. As for "massive" differences in how server and desktops are patched - what would those be precisely? Perhaps you see fewer reboots than I do because you have less installed and fewer windows features enabled, not because of your supposed deep understanding on the "massive" differences between patching a server and desktop.

by thoth 11y ago

Someone1234 11y ago

You're conflating Windows 8 and Windows Server, the two updates you specifically noted are Windows 8 updates. The first one is a Windows 10 pre-checker (KB2976978), so zero chance of Windows Server getting it, and the second one (KB3048778) isn't a critical update (solves a minor Explorer bug) so would have to be manually installed. You likely have "Give me Recommended updates the way I receive important updates" checked in the Windows Update GPO/applet and also just seem to think there is no difference on how Windows Server and Windows Desktop are patched (which there is, massively). A Server 2012 box I happen to have open, has restart events that are corresponding with patch Tuesdays but months are often skipped. You'd likely see a little more if you weren't using Server Core, but nothing like the number you're describing. The thing doesn't even install updates between monthly pushes. I'm seeing approx. 4-5 a year. Which is still much higher than Linux, but nothing like Windows Desktop.

thoth 11y ago
I'm not conflating anything - I even said I wasn't sure if they applied to Win2008, did you miss reading that? I was challenging the general claim that releases that require reboots don't occur more often than once a month. Now if you were specifically addressing this for Win2008 R2, well I'll give you that. I was too lazy to spin that system up and dig through its update history. The GENERAL assumption that the only time you need to reboot is once a month for patch tuesday isn't really accurate. Now for the SPECIFIC case of Win2008 R2, many years after its release, perhaps that is true. And FWIW, thanks for your concern about my systems, but it is irrelevant and incorrect because you do not understand my particular operating environment. One side task I do is build VM's for everybody else in my group to use, so while I do not have auto-updates checked, I wind up getting all updates for every language and OS we are interested in. As for "massive" differences in how server and desktops are patched - what would those be precisely? Perhaps you see fewer reboots than I do because you have less installed and fewer windows features enabled, not because of your supposed deep understanding on the "massive" differences between patching a server and desktop.