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I've found it is easy to poach talent from Apple, Google, and other large ventures. It's not the money. It's the vision and the way they treat talent. They don

I've found it is easy to poach talent from Apple, Google, and other large ventures. It's not the money. It's the vision and the way they treat talent. They don't pay much deference to the consummate creators, the lifeblood of innovation. Long hours, synchronous work schedules with asynchronous dependencies, long commutes, and not an equal pay to warrant education level and mental capacity required for task at hand. I think the future may consist of Life-Work balance where one's life outside of work, is greater than their work.

ocdtrekkie 12y ago
I definitely think the "startup life" culture is something a lot of people will eventually consider a downside. I recently interviewed at a place with an open floor plan, and I found that a big turn off to the position. While free lunch and dinner are nice perks, sure, they also suggest you're still at work for lunch and dinner. I want a job, not an overly-attached workplace.
- cmrdporcupine 12y ago
  The best jobs I've found are at smallish companies with reasonable chance of growing revenues that are just past the startup phase, and over the initial politics that comes from growing. They have enough job security to make it comfortable but still have the opportunity for a person to make significant impact, and usually a mixture of legacy and new project code base. Some technical debt to fix from the startup-sprint phase. I've worked at net-new startups, very large companies, and companies like I've described above. I miss the comraderie of a team under a dozen people making good progress and with everyone able to make good impact without being a superstar.
jarsin 12y ago
Ya I currently work 4 days a week. Because of this one simple thing about my current job it's very hard to consider leaving.
kbart 12y ago
"I think the future may consist of Life-Work balance where one's life outside of work, is greater than their work." Why future? A lot of people do that just now.
- fab13n 12y ago
  More and more people do that, but they don't get mindshare, mediatic exposure. The most common images conjured when one talks job are: * unskilled people piling on minimum-wage jobs to avoid bankrupcy; * start-uppers who clock insane hours, in the hope of becoming filthy rich through Google ads revenue on their new "AirBnB for pets" or whatever; * IBMers (do they still exist as we picture them BTW?); * jobs of limited interest and impact, done half-arsed if not worse, as seen in tv shows like _The Office_. The skilled guy who goes part-time because he makes enough working 3 days a week to enjoy the 4 remaining ones exists, but he's not thought about. When his female counterpart is considered, she's typically seen as sacrificing her career for her kids, rather than buying herself time by not working more than whatever she needs to earn.

ocdtrekkie 12y ago

I definitely think the "startup life" culture is something a lot of people will eventually consider a downside. I recently interviewed at a place with an open floor plan, and I found that a big turn off to the position. While free lunch and dinner are nice perks, sure, they also suggest you're still at work for lunch and dinner. I want a job, not an overly-attached workplace.

cmrdporcupine 12y ago
The best jobs I've found are at smallish companies with reasonable chance of growing revenues that are just past the startup phase, and over the initial politics that comes from growing. They have enough job security to make it comfortable but still have the opportunity for a person to make significant impact, and usually a mixture of legacy and new project code base. Some technical debt to fix from the startup-sprint phase. I've worked at net-new startups, very large companies, and companies like I've described above. I miss the comraderie of a team under a dozen people making good progress and with everyone able to make good impact without being a superstar.

jarsin 12y ago

Ya I currently work 4 days a week. Because of this one simple thing about my current job it's very hard to consider leaving.

kbart 12y ago

"I think the future may consist of Life-Work balance where one's life outside of work, is greater than their work." Why future? A lot of people do that just now.

fab13n 12y ago
More and more people do that, but they don't get mindshare, mediatic exposure. The most common images conjured when one talks job are: * unskilled people piling on minimum-wage jobs to avoid bankrupcy; * start-uppers who clock insane hours, in the hope of becoming filthy rich through Google ads revenue on their new "AirBnB for pets" or whatever; * IBMers (do they still exist as we picture them BTW?); * jobs of limited interest and impact, done half-arsed if not worse, as seen in tv shows like _The Office_. The skilled guy who goes part-time because he makes enough working 3 days a week to enjoy the 4 remaining ones exists, but he's not thought about. When his female counterpart is considered, she's typically seen as sacrificing her career for her kids, rather than buying herself time by not working more than whatever she needs to earn.