5 ms·
Another perfect data point to add to Michael O`Church`s excellent series on the politics and psychology of the modern corporation. For you starry eyed youngste
by FD3SA 12y ago
Another perfect data point to add to Michael O`Church`s excellent series on the politics and psychology of the modern corporation.
For you starry eyed youngsters, just remember that this is Apple, the world`s most profitable company. It only gets worse as you go down the list.
Work for yourself. Consulting, the trades and any type of work you can do independently is far superior to dealing with wannabe Machiavellians on whose benevolence your paycheck depends.
Get out of the corporate world, and do anything else. The sky is the limit.
- baq 12y agoplease excuse me for pointing out that you sound like you've drunk the consulting kool-aid yourself. in my experience it's not in any imaginable way worse down the list no matter where you look.
- michaelochurch 12y agoFor you starry eyed youngsters, just remember that this is Apple, the world`s most profitable company. It only gets worse as you go down the list. I wouldn't go that far. I mean, quite a large number of organizations are dysfunctional, but the mean-spiritedness and overt psychopathy described by the OP is fairly rare, even in Corporate America. From his description I'd guess that Apple is worse than 95% of places where people work, between the 16-hour days and the bizarre status games.
- Apocryphon 12y agoIt's a huge corporation with a huge amount of variance. But it seems that Apple, at its worst, is worse than other firms at their worst. And that's something related to the corporate culture.
- noddingham 12y agoWhoa whoa. Consulting isn't the answer. There are plenty of opportunities in both private and public sector on awesome teams with amazing management.
- bduerst 12y agoConsulting is just a different beast. You get a lot more freedom and typically a higher pay, but sometimes management uses consultants to be the fall guys or hires consultants to confirm their existing decisions. It takes a lot of business savvy (read: empathy) to understand why you're really being hired as a consultant. I don't think OP here would be happy consulting. (Just my 2 cents.)
- detaro 12y ago> just remember that this is Apple, the world`s most profitable company. It only gets worse as you go down the list. I'm not convinced high profitability leads to better working conditions...
- Drdrdrq 12y agoI think that was his point.
- amreact 12y ago> It only gets worse as you go down the list. "It only gets worse as you go down the list" means "workplace quality decreases as profitability decreases." This implies that "workplace quality increases as profitability increases." "workplace quality increases as profitability increases" is a different way of saying "high profitability leads to better working conditions." I think detaro understood FD3SA correctly.
- SonicSoul 12y agoyou're painting with very broad strokes. I didn't like consulting as much for a few reasons. Never being treated like a true employee, having to account for my time in 15 min intervals, thin profit margins while working for intermediate company meant small to no bonuses, no benefits or perks, harder to get promoted or switch teams. Working full time (for big corps) has been great in past decade and I'm at a place where there is no micro management (from above or myself) and a carefully chosen lean team that gets things done. No complaints here!