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.. its not like the average user doesn't have their own bandwidth, and their own means of managing storage, back home at their computer. I think Apple are doin

.. its not like the average user doesn't have their own bandwidth, and their own means of managing storage, back home at their computer. I think Apple are doing the world a disservice by putting more focus on the Cloud nature of things, and less attention on refining their OS to make it easier for people to manage these resources themselves, using the traditional method: with your own computer, your own bandwidth, and under your own control. Seems like a ripe opportunity for a product - build your own Cloud on top of an OSX machine, leave it all at home and administer it - safely - from the beach while you're on vacation.

alexashka 12y ago
I think it's an ease-of-use race to the bottom - the whole cloud storage thing. Inevitably, the cloud is going to be full of photos/videos nobody even remembers exist. It'll be cloud hoarding. It already is that with youtube allowing anyone to upload anything but I have to wonder if that's sustainable. What you're proposing is the next step if cloud hoarding becomes a difficult enough problem - if not, it'll be like Windows being an unbelievable resource-hog but since users keep on buying faster and faster machines, nobody cares. Except here, Apple and the other big companies are taking the hit, not the consumers, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
- 72deluxe 12y ago
  I'd never thought of that, but it really is cloud hoarding! The masses of hi-definition tat on YouTube is really staggering. Unfortunately I contribute to it...
  - alexashka 12y ago
    It's ok :) If it gets to be too much, we'll quickly see 'pay to keep your videos afloat if they're not receiving over X number of views after X number of days' or something else to that effect. The days of everything free are an early stage, short-lived move in order to gain massive market-share. Once near-monopoly position is established, it'll be time to monetize. That's why the older generation shakes their head at walled gardens that gain massive momentum - they know what's most certainly going to come of it in due time.
    - 72deluxe 12y ago
      Oddly though, YouTube has been at the point of monopoly for a long time yet are slow with their subscription model. They appear to be far more interested in redesigning their site and applications every 5 minutes.
- ableal 12y ago
  > I think it's an ease-of-use race to the bottom - the whole cloud storage thing. That set me thinking if there's an asymptotic limit for that. I suppose it would be for everyone in the planet to always be recording everything their eyes can see (and their ears can hear). Greg Egan wrote at least one story about implanted devices for that, and there are calculations around for the data bandwidth.

alexashka 12y ago

I think it's an ease-of-use race to the bottom - the whole cloud storage thing. Inevitably, the cloud is going to be full of photos/videos nobody even remembers exist. It'll be cloud hoarding. It already is that with youtube allowing anyone to upload anything but I have to wonder if that's sustainable. What you're proposing is the next step if cloud hoarding becomes a difficult enough problem - if not, it'll be like Windows being an unbelievable resource-hog but since users keep on buying faster and faster machines, nobody cares. Except here, Apple and the other big companies are taking the hit, not the consumers, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

72deluxe 12y ago
I'd never thought of that, but it really is cloud hoarding! The masses of hi-definition tat on YouTube is really staggering. Unfortunately I contribute to it...
- alexashka 12y ago
  It's ok :) If it gets to be too much, we'll quickly see 'pay to keep your videos afloat if they're not receiving over X number of views after X number of days' or something else to that effect. The days of everything free are an early stage, short-lived move in order to gain massive market-share. Once near-monopoly position is established, it'll be time to monetize. That's why the older generation shakes their head at walled gardens that gain massive momentum - they know what's most certainly going to come of it in due time.
  - 72deluxe 12y ago
    Oddly though, YouTube has been at the point of monopoly for a long time yet are slow with their subscription model. They appear to be far more interested in redesigning their site and applications every 5 minutes.
ableal 12y ago
> I think it's an ease-of-use race to the bottom - the whole cloud storage thing. That set me thinking if there's an asymptotic limit for that. I suppose it would be for everyone in the planet to always be recording everything their eyes can see (and their ears can hear). Greg Egan wrote at least one story about implanted devices for that, and there are calculations around for the data bandwidth.