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Its good that in your post about how you hate Apple products you made sure to get a ton of things wrong and bias them all in a way that makes Apple look worse t

Its good that in your post about how you hate Apple products you made sure to get a ton of things wrong and bias them all in a way that makes Apple look worse than they actually are. It seems like your own irrational hate is the actual problem here.

fit2rule 12y ago
I appreciate your opinion of my psychology, but lets stay on subject: is the Cloud really something we should be promoting, or is there an opportunity here to eat Apples' lunch and develop a better service? Because I think that the Cloud is very, very naive and frankly quite dangerous - I think this, because I've seen and felt the repercussions for what happens when the Cloud server goes down and people can't get work done. It does happen - and will happen. So, why not speculate about a solution that could fill the needs in different ways? We already have it on our desktop machines - Torrent, et al. If only these services were being integrated as functional OS modules, instead of being ignored ...
- gress 12y ago
  Have you seen what happens when AWS goes down? It does, and will happen. Therefore by your measure it and all the startups that use it are naive and dangerous.
  - fit2rule 12y ago
    Have you seen what happens when a Cloud gets hacked into, and the photo's get leaked? I have and it isn't pretty. So? Let people have control over their data back again. Promoting the denigration of these rights at the call of convenience just means that within a year or so, we'll probably be re-inventing this discussion again, only it'll be about how great it is that OS vendors have started integrating things like ipfs.io ..
    - ceejayoz 12y ago
      > Have you seen what happens when a Cloud gets hacked into, and the photo's get leaked? I have and it isn't pretty. I've seen people lose the only copy of important documents when their hard drive crashes, too. The average computer user doesn't have any concept of off-site backup. > Let people have control over their data back again. When did they lose it? I've yet to encounter a platform where cloud storage is required or the only option.
    - gress 12y ago
      > Let people have controls over their data back again... I think you're confused about iCloud. People do have controls over their data, and no rights are denigrated. Perhaps you are mistaking it for Google, or Facebook where there is no desktop equivalent.
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  - fit2rule 12y ago
    Well, you did have to pay $99 for the OS. It hasn't been free here in Europe. I do still think the Cloud is bad news and I do still think that Apple - and other OS Vendors - are intentionally misleading the public down this path to suit their own purposes. I also still think that there is an opportunity to build the anti-cloud, and I'm quite interested in how this could be done. I don't know why you think the hostility is necessary - got some other way to make your point that everything is okay, the Cloud is great and we should stop worrying and learn to love it? I'm not seeing it.

fit2rule 12y ago

I appreciate your opinion of my psychology, but lets stay on subject: is the Cloud really something we should be promoting, or is there an opportunity here to eat Apples' lunch and develop a better service? Because I think that the Cloud is very, very naive and frankly quite dangerous - I think this, because I've seen and felt the repercussions for what happens when the Cloud server goes down and people can't get work done. It does happen - and will happen. So, why not speculate about a solution that could fill the needs in different ways? We already have it on our desktop machines - Torrent, et al. If only these services were being integrated as functional OS modules, instead of being ignored ...

gress 12y ago
Have you seen what happens when AWS goes down? It does, and will happen. Therefore by your measure it and all the startups that use it are naive and dangerous.
- fit2rule 12y ago
  Have you seen what happens when a Cloud gets hacked into, and the photo's get leaked? I have and it isn't pretty. So? Let people have control over their data back again. Promoting the denigration of these rights at the call of convenience just means that within a year or so, we'll probably be re-inventing this discussion again, only it'll be about how great it is that OS vendors have started integrating things like ipfs.io ..
  - ceejayoz 12y ago
    > Have you seen what happens when a Cloud gets hacked into, and the photo's get leaked? I have and it isn't pretty. I've seen people lose the only copy of important documents when their hard drive crashes, too. The average computer user doesn't have any concept of off-site backup. > Let people have control over their data back again. When did they lose it? I've yet to encounter a platform where cloud storage is required or the only option.
  - gress 12y ago
    > Let people have controls over their data back again... I think you're confused about iCloud. People do have controls over their data, and no rights are denigrated. Perhaps you are mistaking it for Google, or Facebook where there is no desktop equivalent.
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- fit2rule 12y ago
  Well, you did have to pay $99 for the OS. It hasn't been free here in Europe. I do still think the Cloud is bad news and I do still think that Apple - and other OS Vendors - are intentionally misleading the public down this path to suit their own purposes. I also still think that there is an opportunity to build the anti-cloud, and I'm quite interested in how this could be done. I don't know why you think the hostility is necessary - got some other way to make your point that everything is okay, the Cloud is great and we should stop worrying and learn to love it? I'm not seeing it.