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Run an OS X VM in order to illicitly develop iOS apps. Run a Windows 8 VM to work on legit Windows apps. Run both VM's at the same time. Anything under 16 GB

Run an OS X VM in order to illicitly develop iOS apps. Run a Windows 8 VM to work on legit Windows apps. Run both VM's at the same time. Anything under 16 GB is unacceptable to me. Developer edition? Nope, not really. I need Linux, Windows and OS X. So my only option remains, as ever, a macbook pro with 16GB RAM.

reustle 12y ago
> Anything under 16 GB is unacceptable to me. Because you've set very high requirements, as you've stated. > Developer edition? Nope, not really. Yes, it still is.
akfanta 12y ago
Why would you need both of them running at the same time though? Also, unless you are on Linux, you probably don't need both of these two VMs. Lastly, I don't quite understand why any serious developer would want to run their dev environment in a VM to begin with.
- mootothemax 12y ago
  Lastly, I don't quite understand why any serious developer would want to run their dev environment in a VM to begin with. I'm really surprised to hear this; I spent enough years working on a local dev environment to know the pain. Heck, I've seen the bugs that come from it as well. Now that Docker's around, and you can run a production-equivalent environment on your local machine, I'd never go back to the bad old days.
- PopsiclePete 12y ago
  I don't understand how I'm supposed to not do that with a Linux laptop? I need to develop Windows apps. Without a VM....dual-boot? No thanks. Don't have the patience for that. So what other options do I have?
Alupis 12y ago
> So my only option remains, as ever, a macbook pro with 16GB RAM If you are OK with running an illicit OSX VM, then a Thinkpad T or X series should be a fine choice if you prefer to run a flavor of Linux as the native OS. Thinkpad native Linux support is better than the macbook pro hardware (no funny fan glitches, etc). It basically "just works" and you can get 16GB's from the factory.

reustle 12y ago

> Anything under 16 GB is unacceptable to me. Because you've set very high requirements, as you've stated. > Developer edition? Nope, not really. Yes, it still is.

akfanta 12y ago

Why would you need both of them running at the same time though? Also, unless you are on Linux, you probably don't need both of these two VMs. Lastly, I don't quite understand why any serious developer would want to run their dev environment in a VM to begin with.

mootothemax 12y ago
Lastly, I don't quite understand why any serious developer would want to run their dev environment in a VM to begin with. I'm really surprised to hear this; I spent enough years working on a local dev environment to know the pain. Heck, I've seen the bugs that come from it as well. Now that Docker's around, and you can run a production-equivalent environment on your local machine, I'd never go back to the bad old days.
PopsiclePete 12y ago
I don't understand how I'm supposed to not do that with a Linux laptop? I need to develop Windows apps. Without a VM....dual-boot? No thanks. Don't have the patience for that. So what other options do I have?

Alupis 12y ago

> So my only option remains, as ever, a macbook pro with 16GB RAM If you are OK with running an illicit OSX VM, then a Thinkpad T or X series should be a fine choice if you prefer to run a flavor of Linux as the native OS. Thinkpad native Linux support is better than the macbook pro hardware (no funny fan glitches, etc). It basically "just works" and you can get 16GB's from the factory.