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Get a prediction of how other people perceive your face

151 points by dhsb 11y ago

GCA10 11y ago
We will get our chance to play with this -- it will just take a while. I emailed the researchers about site snarls, error messages, etc., and they wrote back that all our attention :... is definitely welcome, even though it’s very unexpected and therefore overloaded the server! Ulrik Plesner, who developed the webserver, is working at the moment to get it up and running again..I think it'll be back over the next 1-2 days if all goes well :) "
uplesner 11y ago
Dear all, Unfortunately, we are currently experiencing technical difficulties with the Face It! project website. This is most likely due to the rapid increase in web traffic, after the project was submitted to Hacker News, today April 8 2015. We greatly appreciate the increased interest our project has generated, and are currently working at full throttle to solve the current server issue. Hopefully, the website will run at full functionality again very shortly. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. We will, on Hacker News and the Face It! project website, keep you updated on the status of the project web service as a solution progresses. Please stay tuned...
- uplesner 11y ago
  Dear all, We are happy to tell you, that the web service is now functional again. It can still be visited at the original URL at http://face.cbs.dtu.dk/ http://face.cbs.dtu.dk/. We would like to hand out a big thanks to intrbiz from the IRC channel #suse on the freenode IRC network, for his great support in helping us getting our server properly recovered again. We are sorry for the inconvenience caused in the mean time, but hope you will enjoy the final work.
myth_buster 11y ago
> This study is based on results from 244 Danish participants That's a small learning set. I suppose now that it's on HN front page, they will get significant amount of data to tune their model across cultures and nationalities. Hypothetically, wouldn't it be easier for them to train their model using the portfolio images of public figures like actors/politicians etc for whom I'm sure there would be tremendous amount of subjective description online.
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- notacoward 11y ago
  No, it's a prediction of how those 224 people would perceive a face with features similar to yours, based on a linear regression between the automatically extracted features and the participants' evaluations of personality traits. If you wanted to study how appearance influences others' reactions, how else would you do it?
solve 11y ago
Would be nice to see some examples of each extreme, for each dimension.
- Geee 11y ago
  There: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4169442/figure/pone-0107721-g005/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4169442/figure/p...
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  - doctorstupid 11y ago
    It looks like that in Danish society, being darker may be correlated with perceptions of dominance.
p4bl0 11y ago
In addition to what the first paragraph says, I'll add that given the strong cultural bias there can be on such thing, I wouldn't put too much trust into such a tool except if it could be calibrated by a panel of the "other people" you are targeting.
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dhanush 11y ago
The link is taking time to load. Looks like everyone wants to know what others think about them. Expected.
tomkwok 11y ago
I found a random image of a human face and tried to upload it. Stuck at "Image queued for upload..." for minutes. Then came a page asking me to "annotate" the image by adjusting the auto-positioned point markers on my image according to this image[0]. Finally I saw this message: "An error has occured. Please try again." Is the server too busy right now? [0]: http://face.cbs.dtu.dk/graph/annoEx.png http://face.cbs.dtu.dk/graph/annoEx.png Mirror: https://archive.is/YAaex/5d06f6875b232350ff6954739af37c44a3d913bd.png https://archive.is/YAaex/5d06f6875b232350ff6954739af37c44a3d...
- techaddict009 11y ago
  Site is not opening Seems like HN effect has freezed their server.
  - woliveirajr 11y ago
    Perhaps too many ugly people are using the server and it refused to continue analyzing pictures!
runarb 11y ago
Down for me. A text only version is avalibal from Google cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7YJ7VTWM-YEJ:face.cbs.dtu.dk/&hl=no&gl=no&strip=1 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7YJ7VTW... , but not sure that gives to much sens.
hirenj 11y ago
Link to the actual paper if anyone is interested: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25233221 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25233221
hoopism 11y ago
"Error, code UL1JOBHASH: parsererror" I knew I wasn't the best looking guy but this seems more harsh than I anticipated.
- xpan 11y ago
  haha
- ttty 11y ago
  I got that too.
- MattBearman 11y ago
  Same for me, and I'm beautiful :P I suspect their server has succumb to the Hacker News effect
wabegr 11y ago
As noted in the first paragraph, a tool such as this will be useful to "other cultures" only after a panel comprised of people of the target culture have calibrated the tool.
fsloth 11y ago
This is a bit sensitive to cultural influences. For instance, male facial characteristics have a clear regional variance, thus biasing the result in a particular population. I can tell from experience, I'm a male pushing over thirty with ridiculously androgynous features. I'm tagged as a boy by local population, and when I visit UK, I'm tagged as a 'ugly woman' :)
- MrQuincle 11y ago
  You will be fine, because you can tell the program that you're male. However, the study has been using 244 Danes... I think you'll be right that cultural influences will be a defining factor here. I don't think the majority of people looks like a Dane. :-)
  - mjt0229 11y ago
    I hope they don't tell me that I look like a great dane.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
  "male facial characteristics have a clear regional variance" ?????
aluhut 11y ago
There've been times where I would just upload a picture of myself to the internet. For fun.
coffeebro 11y ago
The first thing I thought when it didn't load was "maybe this is a study to see how persistent people are to find out if they are attractive?" It's probably just the HN effect though.
dinesh_babu 11y ago
commence the HN slashdot.
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- sthreet 11y ago
  That is more of an affect from personality on faces. Reminds me of when everyone would ask me if I was ok, I think my neutral face looks sad for some reason.
- josephpmay 11y ago
  In general B-M personality traits have been discredited, and Tumblr is not considered a valid source for scientific information.
throwaway_xl5 11y ago
This has got me humming 'there is nothing like a Dane' - which is not quite a song from the musical South Pacific.
cubano 11y ago
I have a prediction based on 50 years of empirical, hard-won data... Old and Unattractive. :)p
Aaronneyer 11y ago
I'd be really interested to see someone take the research they did here, and extend the survey to various different cultures. Right now, this model will give you a prediction of how a sample of 244 danes will perceive your face, which may be at least somewhat representative of the danish population, but likely not too much beyond that. It should be easy enough to survey people from different cultures and countries, and feed those surveys into the model, to get a more accurate representation. You could even take that, and have a global model, as well as different models based on cultures, to get things like "This is how you will be perceived by most people in the southern united states".
pbnjay 11y ago
> No hair obscuring the face. Welp I guess my beard disqualifies me. I wonder how many HNers have the same problem?
- alisson 11y ago
  I'm getting a parser error, that's seems to explain why.
piyush_soni 11y ago
Doesn't test anything for me for some reason. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but it doesn't upload or show any 'Annotation points'. Edit: Just saw this : "We are currently encountering server errrors, resulting in the service being unable to run. We are working to get this up and running as soon as possible. Please stay tuned... "
AlexMuir 11y ago
Has this actually worked for anyone?? Not one commenter seems to have got it to work. I've had nothing but an error ("Error, code UL1JOBHASH: parsererror") for the last two hours.
erikb 11y ago
After the error the button isn't even working. I think there's someone just trying to collect photos...

151 points by dhsb 11y ago

GCA10 11y ago

We will get our chance to play with this -- it will just take a while. I emailed the researchers about site snarls, error messages, etc., and they wrote back that all our attention :... is definitely welcome, even though it’s very unexpected and therefore overloaded the server! Ulrik Plesner, who developed the webserver, is working at the moment to get it up and running again..I think it'll be back over the next 1-2 days if all goes well :) "

uplesner 11y ago

Dear all, Unfortunately, we are currently experiencing technical difficulties with the Face It! project website. This is most likely due to the rapid increase in web traffic, after the project was submitted to Hacker News, today April 8 2015. We greatly appreciate the increased interest our project has generated, and are currently working at full throttle to solve the current server issue. Hopefully, the website will run at full functionality again very shortly. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. We will, on Hacker News and the Face It! project website, keep you updated on the status of the project web service as a solution progresses. Please stay tuned...

uplesner 11y ago
Dear all, We are happy to tell you, that the web service is now functional again. It can still be visited at the original URL at http://face.cbs.dtu.dk/ http://face.cbs.dtu.dk/. We would like to hand out a big thanks to intrbiz from the IRC channel #suse on the freenode IRC network, for his great support in helping us getting our server properly recovered again. We are sorry for the inconvenience caused in the mean time, but hope you will enjoy the final work.

myth_buster 11y ago

> This study is based on results from 244 Danish participants That's a small learning set. I suppose now that it's on HN front page, they will get significant amount of data to tune their model across cultures and nationalities. Hypothetically, wouldn't it be easier for them to train their model using the portfolio images of public figures like actors/politicians etc for whom I'm sure there would be tremendous amount of subjective description online.

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notacoward 11y ago
No, it's a prediction of how those 224 people would perceive a face with features similar to yours, based on a linear regression between the automatically extracted features and the participants' evaluations of personality traits. If you wanted to study how appearance influences others' reactions, how else would you do it?

solve 11y ago

Would be nice to see some examples of each extreme, for each dimension.

Geee 11y ago
There: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4169442/figure/pone-0107721-g005/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4169442/figure/p...
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- doctorstupid 11y ago
  It looks like that in Danish society, being darker may be correlated with perceptions of dominance.

p4bl0 11y ago

In addition to what the first paragraph says, I'll add that given the strong cultural bias there can be on such thing, I wouldn't put too much trust into such a tool except if it could be calibrated by a panel of the "other people" you are targeting.

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dhanush 11y ago

The link is taking time to load. Looks like everyone wants to know what others think about them. Expected.

tomkwok 11y ago

I found a random image of a human face and tried to upload it. Stuck at "Image queued for upload..." for minutes. Then came a page asking me to "annotate" the image by adjusting the auto-positioned point markers on my image according to this image[0]. Finally I saw this message: "An error has occured. Please try again." Is the server too busy right now? [0]: http://face.cbs.dtu.dk/graph/annoEx.png http://face.cbs.dtu.dk/graph/annoEx.png Mirror: https://archive.is/YAaex/5d06f6875b232350ff6954739af37c44a3d913bd.png https://archive.is/YAaex/5d06f6875b232350ff6954739af37c44a3d...

techaddict009 11y ago
Site is not opening Seems like HN effect has freezed their server.
- woliveirajr 11y ago
  Perhaps too many ugly people are using the server and it refused to continue analyzing pictures!

runarb 11y ago

Down for me. A text only version is avalibal from Google cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7YJ7VTWM-YEJ:face.cbs.dtu.dk/&hl=no&gl=no&strip=1 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7YJ7VTW... , but not sure that gives to much sens.

hirenj 11y ago

Link to the actual paper if anyone is interested: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25233221 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25233221

hoopism 11y ago

"Error, code UL1JOBHASH: parsererror" I knew I wasn't the best looking guy but this seems more harsh than I anticipated.

xpan 11y ago
haha
ttty 11y ago
I got that too.
MattBearman 11y ago
Same for me, and I'm beautiful :P I suspect their server has succumb to the Hacker News effect

wabegr 11y ago

As noted in the first paragraph, a tool such as this will be useful to "other cultures" only after a panel comprised of people of the target culture have calibrated the tool.

fsloth 11y ago

This is a bit sensitive to cultural influences. For instance, male facial characteristics have a clear regional variance, thus biasing the result in a particular population. I can tell from experience, I'm a male pushing over thirty with ridiculously androgynous features. I'm tagged as a boy by local population, and when I visit UK, I'm tagged as a 'ugly woman' :)

MrQuincle 11y ago
You will be fine, because you can tell the program that you're male. However, the study has been using 244 Danes... I think you'll be right that cultural influences will be a defining factor here. I don't think the majority of people looks like a Dane. :-)
- mjt0229 11y ago
  I hope they don't tell me that I look like a great dane.
GFK_of_xmaspast 11y ago
"male facial characteristics have a clear regional variance" ?????

aluhut 11y ago

There've been times where I would just upload a picture of myself to the internet. For fun.

coffeebro 11y ago

The first thing I thought when it didn't load was "maybe this is a study to see how persistent people are to find out if they are attractive?" It's probably just the HN effect though.

dinesh_babu 11y ago

commence the HN slashdot.

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sthreet 11y ago
That is more of an affect from personality on faces. Reminds me of when everyone would ask me if I was ok, I think my neutral face looks sad for some reason.
josephpmay 11y ago
In general B-M personality traits have been discredited, and Tumblr is not considered a valid source for scientific information.

throwaway_xl5 11y ago

This has got me humming 'there is nothing like a Dane' - which is not quite a song from the musical South Pacific.

cubano 11y ago

I have a prediction based on 50 years of empirical, hard-won data... Old and Unattractive. :)p

Aaronneyer 11y ago

I'd be really interested to see someone take the research they did here, and extend the survey to various different cultures. Right now, this model will give you a prediction of how a sample of 244 danes will perceive your face, which may be at least somewhat representative of the danish population, but likely not too much beyond that. It should be easy enough to survey people from different cultures and countries, and feed those surveys into the model, to get a more accurate representation. You could even take that, and have a global model, as well as different models based on cultures, to get things like "This is how you will be perceived by most people in the southern united states".

pbnjay 11y ago

> No hair obscuring the face. Welp I guess my beard disqualifies me. I wonder how many HNers have the same problem?

alisson 11y ago
I'm getting a parser error, that's seems to explain why.

piyush_soni 11y ago

Doesn't test anything for me for some reason. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but it doesn't upload or show any 'Annotation points'. Edit: Just saw this : "We are currently encountering server errrors, resulting in the service being unable to run. We are working to get this up and running as soon as possible. Please stay tuned... "

AlexMuir 11y ago

Has this actually worked for anyone?? Not one commenter seems to have got it to work. I've had nothing but an error ("Error, code UL1JOBHASH: parsererror") for the last two hours.

erikb 11y ago

After the error the button isn't even working. I think there's someone just trying to collect photos...