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The deal you get from prosecutors is only as good as your lawyer and good lawyers cost money. This is what happens when the criminal justice system is run by po

The deal you get from prosecutors is only as good as your lawyer and good lawyers cost money. This is what happens when the criminal justice system is run by politicking judges and prosecutors elected by a public whose understanding of punitive systems doesn't get any more nuanced than "let's be hard on crime!"

r00fus 12y ago
Sounds not unlike the non-insured experience at any hospital - you get charged with insane amounts of stuff so they can negotiate discounted reasonable rates with insurance companies. If you don't have representation you basically get shafted.
- aero142 12y ago
  I've often thought I need a medical agent for negotiating with hospitals and navigating my insurance. Do you know of anyone doing this? Might be a company idea in there somewhere. Medical negotiation agent.
  - mynameismonkey 12y ago
    http://billadvocates.com/ http://billadvocates.com/ http://hospitalbillreview.com/ http://hospitalbillreview.com/ http://thekarisgroup.com/ http://thekarisgroup.com/ lots and lots of these
    - aero142 12y ago
      Thanks for the list!
maratd 12y ago
> This is what happens when the criminal justice system is run by politicking judges and prosecutors elected by a public The same stupidity is on display in states that don't elect their judges or prosecutors. The problem is that there is no incentive for actual justice. Neither the judge nor the prosecutor pay for the incarceration. Nor do they care for how long the individual is incarcerated. Might be nice if they were given a limited number of years to distribute among their convicts. A little scarcity might to do the system some good.
- noir_lord 12y ago
  Holy shit. That's brilliant! Calculate the number of judge sentence years based on prison places, want harsher sentences build more prisons, tie the cost of incarceration directly to judges sentencing.
anigbrowl 12y ago
You're leaving out the legislators that put these laws on the books in the first place, and often require mandatory minimum sentences because voters like politicians who are 'tough on crime.'
qiqing 12y ago
and the prison-industrial complex who stand to profit off of taxpayer dollars by locking as many people up for as minor infractions as they can get away with as possible...

r00fus 12y ago

Sounds not unlike the non-insured experience at any hospital - you get charged with insane amounts of stuff so they can negotiate discounted reasonable rates with insurance companies. If you don't have representation you basically get shafted.

aero142 12y ago
I've often thought I need a medical agent for negotiating with hospitals and navigating my insurance. Do you know of anyone doing this? Might be a company idea in there somewhere. Medical negotiation agent.
- mynameismonkey 12y ago
  http://billadvocates.com/ http://billadvocates.com/ http://hospitalbillreview.com/ http://hospitalbillreview.com/ http://thekarisgroup.com/ http://thekarisgroup.com/ lots and lots of these
  - aero142 12y ago
    Thanks for the list!

maratd 12y ago

> This is what happens when the criminal justice system is run by politicking judges and prosecutors elected by a public The same stupidity is on display in states that don't elect their judges or prosecutors. The problem is that there is no incentive for actual justice. Neither the judge nor the prosecutor pay for the incarceration. Nor do they care for how long the individual is incarcerated. Might be nice if they were given a limited number of years to distribute among their convicts. A little scarcity might to do the system some good.

noir_lord 12y ago
Holy shit. That's brilliant! Calculate the number of judge sentence years based on prison places, want harsher sentences build more prisons, tie the cost of incarceration directly to judges sentencing.

anigbrowl 12y ago

You're leaving out the legislators that put these laws on the books in the first place, and often require mandatory minimum sentences because voters like politicians who are 'tough on crime.'

qiqing 12y ago

and the prison-industrial complex who stand to profit off of taxpayer dollars by locking as many people up for as minor infractions as they can get away with as possible...