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It is discrimination. The question is if that discrimination is a bad thing or not. For instance: you are discriminating against people who don't know javascr

by blhack 12y ago

It is discrimination. The question is if that discrimination is a bad thing or not. For instance: you are discriminating against people who don't know javascript if you are hiring for a job that requires javascript and don't hire people who don't know it. Is that a bad thing? I dont' think so. There are some things that we as a society have determined that it is not okay to discriminate based on. Here is a list of them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class

mtviewdave 12y ago
>The question is if that discrimination is a bad thing or not. In colloquial American usage, "discrimination" in the context of hiring and employment refers exclusively to judging people by illegal or inappropriate factors. >you are discriminating against people who don't know javascript if you are hiring for a job that requires javascript and don't hire people who don't know it. This may be an appropriate statement for other English-speaking countries, but in the US, this is a statement that borders on sophistry.
gknoy 12y ago
You are discriminating ... if you are hiring for a job that requires javascript and don't hire people who don't know it. Is that a bad thing? I dont' think so. You might be overlooking good coworkers or employees, especially older ones who have experience in other languages. I knew zero Python or Javascript before I started this job, and now write in it 100% of the time. (My previous job was Lisp + GWT.) Similarly, I recall an article from Matasano that said that some of their best candiates did not have prior experience with something that one might have expected to be a prerequisite: "Some of the best testers we've worked with didn't have a formal security background." [0]. If you only hire people who "know" $Language, what will you do if six months down the line you decide to rewrite in Clojure, or find that Haskell is the best way to move forward? 0: http://matasano.com/careers/ http://matasano.com/careers/

by blhack 12y ago

mtviewdave 12y ago

>The question is if that discrimination is a bad thing or not. In colloquial American usage, "discrimination" in the context of hiring and employment refers exclusively to judging people by illegal or inappropriate factors. >you are discriminating against people who don't know javascript if you are hiring for a job that requires javascript and don't hire people who don't know it. This may be an appropriate statement for other English-speaking countries, but in the US, this is a statement that borders on sophistry.

gknoy 12y ago

You are discriminating ... if you are hiring for a job that requires javascript and don't hire people who don't know it. Is that a bad thing? I dont' think so. You might be overlooking good coworkers or employees, especially older ones who have experience in other languages. I knew zero Python or Javascript before I started this job, and now write in it 100% of the time. (My previous job was Lisp + GWT.) Similarly, I recall an article from Matasano that said that some of their best candiates did not have prior experience with something that one might have expected to be a prerequisite: "Some of the best testers we've worked with didn't have a formal security background." [0]. If you only hire people who "know" $Language, what will you do if six months down the line you decide to rewrite in Clojure, or find that Haskell is the best way to move forward? 0: http://matasano.com/careers/ http://matasano.com/careers/