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> 4. Like it or not, most networking in London is focused around drinking. Find a way to deal with that without having a constant hangover. One of my classes a

> 4. Like it or not, most networking in London is focused around drinking. Find a way to deal with that without having a constant hangover. One of my classes at uni taught me that doing drugs (especially alcohol) is sometimes necessary for getting things done, but I still wish this wasn't the case.

borgia 12y ago
Can you expand on that? What was the class? Was this advice issued or was it something you came to realise yourself? Pure curiosity.
- afarrell 12y ago
  This was an engineering leadership class at MIT. The advise specifically was first an anecdote about working in Japan and going out to get piss-drunk on sale after work and then a generalization of that to drinking as a means to networking in general. My generalization to other drugs is my own. Since there is no moral difference between alcohol and marijuana and there soon won't be a legal one. The reason why alcohol culture frustrates me is that in high school, I had an older friend who started going to AA and brought me along for moral support sometimes. I've since grown up, developed a fondness for craft cider, and realized that I personally don't have much to worry about from addiction. But for the same reason I think startup events should be expected to be wheelchair-accessible, I think folks should be cool with teetotalers.
  - borgia 12y ago
    >This was an engineering leadership class at MIT. The advise specifically was first an anecdote about working in Japan and going out to get piss-drunk on sale after work and then a generalization of that to drinking as a means to networking in general. My generalization to other drugs is my own. Since there is no moral difference between alcohol and marijuana and there soon won't be a legal one. Interestingly I read an article (perhaps it was posted here?) in recent days about westerners struggling in Japan and one key point was the expectation to go out drinking heavily after work every night. I can see the merit in holding networking events surrounding drinking as alcohol will (perhaps) get people to put their guard down, relax and socialise more than if everyone were stone cold sober. I will be interested to see what happens with regards to marijuana and networking events. Though the moral argument against marijuana is gone, there is still a stigma associated with the drug. In many professional circles cocaine is currently more likely to be the accepted drug of choice than marijuana (going by personal experience). Marijuana is also different to alcohol in that one can have a few drinks over a reasonable amount of time and be more relaxed without getting intoxicated, however a few drags on a pipe with reasonable marijuana in it will cause rapid intoxication. How well that bears for networking events is something I'll certainly be interested to see!
jgroszko 12y ago
I think Europe is more beer-centric than the US, but here you can always ask the bartender to put a lime in your club soda to make it look like a cocktail... Bartenders are usually pretty friendly to people that aren't actually drinking, whether you're the DD, recovering, or just don't want to actually drink.
- tashoecraft 12y ago
  This is my strategy at any networking event. Usually have one drink then switch to club soda and lime. While many others are pounding back drinks because "free bar", I'm slightly loose and able to hold intelligent conversations still.

borgia 12y ago

Can you expand on that? What was the class? Was this advice issued or was it something you came to realise yourself? Pure curiosity.

afarrell 12y ago
This was an engineering leadership class at MIT. The advise specifically was first an anecdote about working in Japan and going out to get piss-drunk on sale after work and then a generalization of that to drinking as a means to networking in general. My generalization to other drugs is my own. Since there is no moral difference between alcohol and marijuana and there soon won't be a legal one. The reason why alcohol culture frustrates me is that in high school, I had an older friend who started going to AA and brought me along for moral support sometimes. I've since grown up, developed a fondness for craft cider, and realized that I personally don't have much to worry about from addiction. But for the same reason I think startup events should be expected to be wheelchair-accessible, I think folks should be cool with teetotalers.
- borgia 12y ago
  >This was an engineering leadership class at MIT. The advise specifically was first an anecdote about working in Japan and going out to get piss-drunk on sale after work and then a generalization of that to drinking as a means to networking in general. My generalization to other drugs is my own. Since there is no moral difference between alcohol and marijuana and there soon won't be a legal one. Interestingly I read an article (perhaps it was posted here?) in recent days about westerners struggling in Japan and one key point was the expectation to go out drinking heavily after work every night. I can see the merit in holding networking events surrounding drinking as alcohol will (perhaps) get people to put their guard down, relax and socialise more than if everyone were stone cold sober. I will be interested to see what happens with regards to marijuana and networking events. Though the moral argument against marijuana is gone, there is still a stigma associated with the drug. In many professional circles cocaine is currently more likely to be the accepted drug of choice than marijuana (going by personal experience). Marijuana is also different to alcohol in that one can have a few drinks over a reasonable amount of time and be more relaxed without getting intoxicated, however a few drags on a pipe with reasonable marijuana in it will cause rapid intoxication. How well that bears for networking events is something I'll certainly be interested to see!

jgroszko 12y ago

I think Europe is more beer-centric than the US, but here you can always ask the bartender to put a lime in your club soda to make it look like a cocktail... Bartenders are usually pretty friendly to people that aren't actually drinking, whether you're the DD, recovering, or just don't want to actually drink.

tashoecraft 12y ago
This is my strategy at any networking event. Usually have one drink then switch to club soda and lime. While many others are pounding back drinks because "free bar", I'm slightly loose and able to hold intelligent conversations still.