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At the end of the day it is utterly irrelevant ... the US has a major food issue, only seconded by the fat Mexicans - and salt is certainly not any major proble

At the end of the day it is utterly irrelevant ... the US has a major food issue, only seconded by the fat Mexicans - and salt is certainly not any major problem here. Most likely the findings simply imply that our body copes well with a bit "too much" or "too little" salt intake from nuitrition. I mean you still get plenty of "salt" from your water. The problem is sugar, carbonhydrate-based food, red meat and fat, fat, fat - everytime I watch documentaries about the US (f.x. about the fucked up prison system) I wonder about how it is possible that almost every single police guy or warden is that fat - or the other extreme a bulk of muscles. I mean sorry - but salt - that's nothing the US has to worry about.

savanaly 12y ago
Go back or forward or sideways a few months and you'll find people authoritatively saying what you just said with all the nouns rearranged (turns out fat isn't so bad! etc). Modern nutrition seems like an endless merry-go-round mindfuck. (Not saying non-modern is any better of course)
- plongeur 12y ago
  Of course "fat isn't so bad!" ... but it is, if you live off fast food like a significant part of the US population. Also "fat <> fat" ... I eat every day at least one tablespoon of linseed oil. And that is very good for me and my brain :)
  - jjoonathan 12y ago
    And how exactly do you know that it is good for you and your brain?
  - Snesker 12y ago
    ALA, while essential, is effectively useless 'for your brain'. You need the products your body creates in inadequaate amounts from ALA, EPA & DHA. Furthermore, I personally guarantee your flax oil is rancid. That shit does not keep. Eat sardines.
- altcognito 12y ago
  Not to mention it seems like the advice on a good diet is going to be heavily dependent on your gut bacteria making things even more complicated.
  - plongeur 12y ago
    Well - your gut bacteria is first and foremost dependent on your diet ... :)
- smcl 12y ago
  Ehhhh sort of but not really. There's weird back-and-forth on fat as in "the food you eat contains fat" often in the context of fad diets and over-enthusiastic newspapers drawing unrealistic conclusions from medical journals. But I don't think there's any ambiguity that being fat is not healthy.
- jensen123 12y ago
  > Modern nutrition seems like an endless merry-go-round mindfuck. (Not saying non-modern is any better of course) Agree. I can see two reasons for this. One is that all humans are biochemically unique. A diet that works well for one person won't necessarily work well for another. The other reason is the food industry financing "research". For example, sugar companies financing studies that tell you that artificial sweeteners are unhealthy. Actually, there seems to be one more reason. Cultural "taboos". For example, lots of people will tell you that eating too much sugar, fat, salt etc. are bad, BUT you never hear that eating too much protein is bad, even though there is research that shows this. Seems like there's some sort of taboo against saying anything bad about protein.
easytiger 12y ago
Can't believe you've been downvoted. I just accidentally bought a Dr Pepper from a vending machine instead of a diet coke. It has 24g of sugar. Ludicrous. I had four mouthfuls before i started literally palpitating.
- plongeur 12y ago
  One cube of sugar weighs about 3g - so 24g that's 8 cubes of sugar. Unbelievable isn't it.
  - baldfat 12y ago
    So is a plate full of pasta or a few slices of bread or even worse juice. Carbs from sugar and non-sugar are used exactly the same way in your body. Heck people say that soda has so much sugar you would vomit if it wasn't for some additives, but apple juice has more sugar per oz than soda and it doesn't have additives to make you not vomit. Just like life you have to have balance in your diet (I have to much sugar) but it doesn't really matter what sweet you drink or carb that you eat. They all turn into glucose. Now fruit and vegetables will have some other nutrients but in terms of too much sugar people over simplify. [1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/is-it-really-worth-not-eating-bread-pasta-and-other-carbs/2015/02/06/cd6d1c38-89e2-11e4-a085-34e9b9f09a58_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/is-it-...
- sten 12y ago
  The diet coke is also associated with diet issues. Mainly that the pseudo sugars trick the brain into expecting a rise in bloodsugar level that never comes, leading to a crash.
  - easytiger 12y ago
    But ultimately its a psychological issue that leads you to eating more. Not actual sugars or carbs being turned into fat

savanaly 12y ago

Go back or forward or sideways a few months and you'll find people authoritatively saying what you just said with all the nouns rearranged (turns out fat isn't so bad! etc). Modern nutrition seems like an endless merry-go-round mindfuck. (Not saying non-modern is any better of course)

plongeur 12y ago
Of course "fat isn't so bad!" ... but it is, if you live off fast food like a significant part of the US population. Also "fat <> fat" ... I eat every day at least one tablespoon of linseed oil. And that is very good for me and my brain :)
- jjoonathan 12y ago
  And how exactly do you know that it is good for you and your brain?
- Snesker 12y ago
  ALA, while essential, is effectively useless 'for your brain'. You need the products your body creates in inadequaate amounts from ALA, EPA & DHA. Furthermore, I personally guarantee your flax oil is rancid. That shit does not keep. Eat sardines.
altcognito 12y ago
Not to mention it seems like the advice on a good diet is going to be heavily dependent on your gut bacteria making things even more complicated.
- plongeur 12y ago
  Well - your gut bacteria is first and foremost dependent on your diet ... :)
smcl 12y ago
Ehhhh sort of but not really. There's weird back-and-forth on fat as in "the food you eat contains fat" often in the context of fad diets and over-enthusiastic newspapers drawing unrealistic conclusions from medical journals. But I don't think there's any ambiguity that being fat is not healthy.
jensen123 12y ago
> Modern nutrition seems like an endless merry-go-round mindfuck. (Not saying non-modern is any better of course) Agree. I can see two reasons for this. One is that all humans are biochemically unique. A diet that works well for one person won't necessarily work well for another. The other reason is the food industry financing "research". For example, sugar companies financing studies that tell you that artificial sweeteners are unhealthy. Actually, there seems to be one more reason. Cultural "taboos". For example, lots of people will tell you that eating too much sugar, fat, salt etc. are bad, BUT you never hear that eating too much protein is bad, even though there is research that shows this. Seems like there's some sort of taboo against saying anything bad about protein.

easytiger 12y ago

Can't believe you've been downvoted. I just accidentally bought a Dr Pepper from a vending machine instead of a diet coke. It has 24g of sugar. Ludicrous. I had four mouthfuls before i started literally palpitating.

plongeur 12y ago
One cube of sugar weighs about 3g - so 24g that's 8 cubes of sugar. Unbelievable isn't it.
- baldfat 12y ago
  So is a plate full of pasta or a few slices of bread or even worse juice. Carbs from sugar and non-sugar are used exactly the same way in your body. Heck people say that soda has so much sugar you would vomit if it wasn't for some additives, but apple juice has more sugar per oz than soda and it doesn't have additives to make you not vomit. Just like life you have to have balance in your diet (I have to much sugar) but it doesn't really matter what sweet you drink or carb that you eat. They all turn into glucose. Now fruit and vegetables will have some other nutrients but in terms of too much sugar people over simplify. [1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/is-it-really-worth-not-eating-bread-pasta-and-other-carbs/2015/02/06/cd6d1c38-89e2-11e4-a085-34e9b9f09a58_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/is-it-...
sten 12y ago
The diet coke is also associated with diet issues. Mainly that the pseudo sugars trick the brain into expecting a rise in bloodsugar level that never comes, leading to a crash.
- easytiger 12y ago
  But ultimately its a psychological issue that leads you to eating more. Not actual sugars or carbs being turned into fat