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Strange, that's not what I heard: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090128183930.htm http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090128183930.ht...

by TNO 17y ago

Strange, that's not what I heard: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090128183930.htm http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090128183930.ht... http://seekingalpha.com/article/31884-can-royal-dutch-shell-s-shale-extraction-technique-end-peak-oil-paranoia http://seekingalpha.com/article/31884-can-royal-dutch-shell-...

fnid 17y ago
I don't believe anything in these articles says that peak oil isn't a reality, they only push back the peak. The only thing that could refute peak oil is confirmation of abiotic oil production. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin Off topic: [E]ngineers at Royal Dutch Shell (RDS.A) have applied for a patent on a new method of extracting shale oil cheaply and cleanly. How is this different from granting a patent on software that extracts data cheaply and cleanly?
- camccann 17y ago
  In practice "peak oil" is more a political catchphrase than anything else. Objectively, the concept is both true and obvious. Yes, finite resources are finite and if you keep using them they'll eventually run out. Not exactly rocket science, there. In practice, it mostly gets discussed because people like to worry over impending catastrophes, especially ones that can be blamed on people they don't like. It's really just not that big of a concern. Oh, and abiogenic petroleum is pretty much crackpottery, so that doesn't help.
  - pyre 17y ago
    > Oh, and abiogenic petroleum is pretty much crackpottery, so that doesn't help. What does this have to do with his post? He was basically saying that finite resources will have an end unless we can confirm that they aren't finite.
  - RyanMcGreal 17y ago
    > if you keep using them they'll eventually run out Peak oil isn't about oil running out. It's about the rate of production going into decline and the economy struggling to handle extreme oil price volatility.
- roc 17y ago
  Patents are only granted on specific implementations, not ideas. So, if granted, it wouldn't be a patent on any better extraction method, but only on their particular method of increasing efficiency. (say, the use of a particular additive in the slurry or what-have-you)

by TNO 17y ago

fnid 17y ago

I don't believe anything in these articles says that peak oil isn't a reality, they only push back the peak. The only thing that could refute peak oil is confirmation of abiotic oil production. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin Off topic: [E]ngineers at Royal Dutch Shell (RDS.A) have applied for a patent on a new method of extracting shale oil cheaply and cleanly. How is this different from granting a patent on software that extracts data cheaply and cleanly?

camccann 17y ago
In practice "peak oil" is more a political catchphrase than anything else. Objectively, the concept is both true and obvious. Yes, finite resources are finite and if you keep using them they'll eventually run out. Not exactly rocket science, there. In practice, it mostly gets discussed because people like to worry over impending catastrophes, especially ones that can be blamed on people they don't like. It's really just not that big of a concern. Oh, and abiogenic petroleum is pretty much crackpottery, so that doesn't help.
- pyre 17y ago
  > Oh, and abiogenic petroleum is pretty much crackpottery, so that doesn't help. What does this have to do with his post? He was basically saying that finite resources will have an end unless we can confirm that they aren't finite.
- RyanMcGreal 17y ago
  > if you keep using them they'll eventually run out Peak oil isn't about oil running out. It's about the rate of production going into decline and the economy struggling to handle extreme oil price volatility.
roc 17y ago
Patents are only granted on specific implementations, not ideas. So, if granted, it wouldn't be a patent on any better extraction method, but only on their particular method of increasing efficiency. (say, the use of a particular additive in the slurry or what-have-you)