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I think you are right - my comment is definitely a bit harsh. Certainly I don't hold a grudge against her b/c of this. But this type of over-hyped blog post fit

I think you are right - my comment is definitely a bit harsh. Certainly I don't hold a grudge against her b/c of this. But this type of over-hyped blog post fits into a weird and annoying pattern on HN as I see it. At the moment I cannot say specifically why I do react so allergic to it.

coolsunglasses 12y ago
>over-hyped blog post It's not over-hyped until there's a $1mm kickstarter ;) Also you're not leaving my co-author a great impression of the tech industry. She's been reading this thread and you people are being terrible.
- plongeur 12y ago
  Okay, I'm sorry! Didn't want to make her feel bad! :) Then again - she's already making bold statements about correct software development paradims ... I guess, some healthy humbleness may be useful if you don't want to be judged yourself.
  - coolsunglasses 12y ago
    Stop making excuses. She didn't post this to HN. She can write whatever she wants.
    - AnimalMuppet 12y ago
      Sure she can. But at least one of plongeur's criticisms was completely valid, even if stated a bit harshly. She does in fact write that she has no experience in other language paradigms, but then exactly says "Honestly, I still don’t really understand why people like imperative and OO languages." That is, she criticized people for choosing other paradigms that she admittedly doesn't have the experience to criticize. Then she doubles down on defending that part against criticism, while complaining that that seems to be the part that HN is attacking. Um, maybe because that part is weak? Look, the point isn't to tear her apart. The point is that it's valid to criticize that part of what she said, without it becoming a personal attack. As for the rest of what she said, that she mentions that we're not criticizing: That's because (other than the "learning a first language is easiest" part), there's not much more to criticize. She wants to learn Haskell? Great. Go for it. She wants to teach it to others who don't know any programming language? Great. Go for it. She wants to document her trail to make it easier for others? Wonderful! There's nothing whatsoever to criticize with any of that. And as for why it's getting criticized here on HN when she didn't post it here: Somebody did, and we're commenting on it. That's kind of how the comments section of HN works. The only way it could be different is if it wasn't posted here (so nobody read it here; probably not a net win for anybody), or if HN had a way to post something where no commenting was allowed.

coolsunglasses 12y ago

>over-hyped blog post It's not over-hyped until there's a $1mm kickstarter ;) Also you're not leaving my co-author a great impression of the tech industry. She's been reading this thread and you people are being terrible.

plongeur 12y ago
Okay, I'm sorry! Didn't want to make her feel bad! :) Then again - she's already making bold statements about correct software development paradims ... I guess, some healthy humbleness may be useful if you don't want to be judged yourself.
- coolsunglasses 12y ago
  Stop making excuses. She didn't post this to HN. She can write whatever she wants.
  - AnimalMuppet 12y ago
    Sure she can. But at least one of plongeur's criticisms was completely valid, even if stated a bit harshly. She does in fact write that she has no experience in other language paradigms, but then exactly says "Honestly, I still don’t really understand why people like imperative and OO languages." That is, she criticized people for choosing other paradigms that she admittedly doesn't have the experience to criticize. Then she doubles down on defending that part against criticism, while complaining that that seems to be the part that HN is attacking. Um, maybe because that part is weak? Look, the point isn't to tear her apart. The point is that it's valid to criticize that part of what she said, without it becoming a personal attack. As for the rest of what she said, that she mentions that we're not criticizing: That's because (other than the "learning a first language is easiest" part), there's not much more to criticize. She wants to learn Haskell? Great. Go for it. She wants to teach it to others who don't know any programming language? Great. Go for it. She wants to document her trail to make it easier for others? Wonderful! There's nothing whatsoever to criticize with any of that. And as for why it's getting criticized here on HN when she didn't post it here: Somebody did, and we're commenting on it. That's kind of how the comments section of HN works. The only way it could be different is if it wasn't posted here (so nobody read it here; probably not a net win for anybody), or if HN had a way to post something where no commenting was allowed.