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Wait, so you're saying... you don't disagree that all people have a human right to participate in their own government? That you only don't think all people s

• vacri 12y ago
  Eh? I didn't say not in their own government. I said that people who are not French citizens can't vote in the French elections, and it's not a violation of human rights that they can't. I didn't say that Russians shouldn't be able to vote in Russia. Stop strawmanning my words. Edit: to be clearer - being able to get involved in your own government is a human right. Being able to vote in the French elections is a civil right, reserved to French citizens. All cats are animals, but not all animals are cats.
  • Frondo 12y ago
    The thing is, I can't even understand where the claim that "being able to participate in other people's government is a human right" is coming from. I think we're saying the same thing, but somehow we got our signals mixed up.