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I cannot emphasize this enough. To bid for a government contract is a MASSIVE undertaking. Just to win the bid is very, very difficult. The RFP, RFQ, ITB are ju

by altoz 12y ago

I cannot emphasize this enough. To bid for a government contract is a MASSIVE undertaking. Just to win the bid is very, very difficult. The RFP, RFQ, ITB are just a small part of the process and the evaluation process of each bid is not merely the lowest price, but also a combination of responsiveness, history of responsibility and the politics of a selection committee.

rankam 12y ago
> the politics of a selection committee. Working in government and having to deal with these things on a day to day basis, you couldn't be more right. Also, it doesn't help that people hate when they have to be a part of a selection committee.
- mgkimsal 12y ago
  I'm in the process of looking at this space, and the approach we're thinking of taking is starting with smaller/local municipalities first, vs larger orgs (and larger contracts). We're in the learning process right now, to see if there's any interest/demand. One of the things that's come up is the RFP review process - even at county levels, I've been surprised at how... paper-based it still is, and even more surprised that people seem willing to change to e-processes. Anyone that has any more info/insight on local gov bid processes and willing to share insight, please hit me up. tia :)
  - Kalium 12y ago
    As a former contracting grunt, my understanding is that the smaller groups tend to have no money and be at least as disorganized as the big ones. I saw several small companies trying to work their way up, and their method of choice seemed to be subcontracting to the big contractors to help meet small business requirements. It helps if you manage the tick the disabled-minority-veteran boxes, because then you have a better shot of getting some of the small business setasides. And hey! If your small business manages to become prime on a contract, you'll find that Raytheon or Lockheed or Boeing will be willing to sub to you...
  - rankam 12y ago
    My email is in my profile - don't know if I'll be able to help but feel free to reach out with any questions and I'll do my best to answer.
    - mgkimsal 12y ago
      actually, I don't see it there - mine is mgkimsal@gmail.com
  - HillRat 12y ago
    Few municipalities and counties do a lot of bespoke software work -- most of their contracting hours go either to configuring and integrating COTS systems that handle specific aspects of their operations, or doing reporting out of those systems. The lion's share of their IT dollars go to licensing the systems themselves, so if you really want to get into the municipal space, find an underserved departmental need and establish yourself as a player in that space. States are more complex, as the agencies are larger and generally have more specific needs; you can do more custom software work, but your best bet is to get embedded in an agency and learn their processes and systems extensively. I don't recommend trying to break out of a governmental "level" (local to state, state to fed) -- totally different contracting environments, and your time is best spent learning your given market very well. After that, it's a lot of sales efforts and searching for/responding to RFPs. Your best bet is to get onto state purchasing lists (similar to GSA, but generally with a lot less red tape), as most states will let cities and agencies skip the bid process if they're buying off an approved vendor list. If you have to go through bid, the very best thing you can do is get a champion with purchasing authority and let them know exactly what your product does that the competitors don't -- it's very common to write bids so that they end up targeting a single vendor, but you have to have valid and meaningful differentiators (not always technical -- don't forget that bids encompass not only software but also support and consulting!) for the bids to pass muster. If you're looking for competitive intelligence, you can generally get access to city and state contracts under sunshine laws -- these will tell you not only what the pricing is in your market, but also what cities and agencies are looking for in their bids. This may or may not apply, but female-, minority- and veteran-owned businesses (so-called "historically underutilized businesses," or HUBs) are usually a plus when bidding, as are small disadvantaged businesses. I strongly recommend checking out getting SDB or HUBZone certification from the US Small Business Administration if you think you qualify -- it'll open some doors for you.

by altoz 12y ago

rankam 12y ago

> the politics of a selection committee. Working in government and having to deal with these things on a day to day basis, you couldn't be more right. Also, it doesn't help that people hate when they have to be a part of a selection committee.

mgkimsal 12y ago
I'm in the process of looking at this space, and the approach we're thinking of taking is starting with smaller/local municipalities first, vs larger orgs (and larger contracts). We're in the learning process right now, to see if there's any interest/demand. One of the things that's come up is the RFP review process - even at county levels, I've been surprised at how... paper-based it still is, and even more surprised that people seem willing to change to e-processes. Anyone that has any more info/insight on local gov bid processes and willing to share insight, please hit me up. tia :)
- Kalium 12y ago
  As a former contracting grunt, my understanding is that the smaller groups tend to have no money and be at least as disorganized as the big ones. I saw several small companies trying to work their way up, and their method of choice seemed to be subcontracting to the big contractors to help meet small business requirements. It helps if you manage the tick the disabled-minority-veteran boxes, because then you have a better shot of getting some of the small business setasides. And hey! If your small business manages to become prime on a contract, you'll find that Raytheon or Lockheed or Boeing will be willing to sub to you...
- rankam 12y ago
  My email is in my profile - don't know if I'll be able to help but feel free to reach out with any questions and I'll do my best to answer.
  - mgkimsal 12y ago
    actually, I don't see it there - mine is mgkimsal@gmail.com
- HillRat 12y ago
  Few municipalities and counties do a lot of bespoke software work -- most of their contracting hours go either to configuring and integrating COTS systems that handle specific aspects of their operations, or doing reporting out of those systems. The lion's share of their IT dollars go to licensing the systems themselves, so if you really want to get into the municipal space, find an underserved departmental need and establish yourself as a player in that space. States are more complex, as the agencies are larger and generally have more specific needs; you can do more custom software work, but your best bet is to get embedded in an agency and learn their processes and systems extensively. I don't recommend trying to break out of a governmental "level" (local to state, state to fed) -- totally different contracting environments, and your time is best spent learning your given market very well. After that, it's a lot of sales efforts and searching for/responding to RFPs. Your best bet is to get onto state purchasing lists (similar to GSA, but generally with a lot less red tape), as most states will let cities and agencies skip the bid process if they're buying off an approved vendor list. If you have to go through bid, the very best thing you can do is get a champion with purchasing authority and let them know exactly what your product does that the competitors don't -- it's very common to write bids so that they end up targeting a single vendor, but you have to have valid and meaningful differentiators (not always technical -- don't forget that bids encompass not only software but also support and consulting!) for the bids to pass muster. If you're looking for competitive intelligence, you can generally get access to city and state contracts under sunshine laws -- these will tell you not only what the pricing is in your market, but also what cities and agencies are looking for in their bids. This may or may not apply, but female-, minority- and veteran-owned businesses (so-called "historically underutilized businesses," or HUBs) are usually a plus when bidding, as are small disadvantaged businesses. I strongly recommend checking out getting SDB or HUBZone certification from the US Small Business Administration if you think you qualify -- it'll open some doors for you.