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This is an interesting calculation to do but the specific example needs improvement. First, the calculation of the available supply is based on known, existing
by jhayward 12y ago
This is an interesting calculation to do but the specific example needs improvement.
First, the calculation of the available supply is based on known,
existing reserves economically retrievable at current prices. Changes
in demand will change both the known reserve quantity and the price.
Lithium is currently about $1/kg, so there is plenty of room to grow
price to increase supply without affecting the cost of batteries. So
a reasonable estimate of lithium supply has to include both demand volume and price. Reserve
growth based on demand volume and price is a very tricky thing to forecast.
Second, the choice of 3.4 billion vehicles to "bring the entire world
to North American levels" as a goal is an unrealistic number for many
reasons. Regional economics, geography, and social density vary quite
radically around the world. The built infrastructure varies and
supports many different transportation modalities. It also doesn't
take in to account changes in technology, infrastructure, and social
organisation during such a radical transition. So a more reasonable
estimate would be to simply replace all vehicles on the road with
BEVs.
Last, the note could also be improved by doing sanity checks. For
instance, could the world production capacity of any other energy
storage mechanism, including oil, hydrogen, ethanol, etc. support 3.4
billion vehicles? It's always useful to compare what you are
calculating to the alternatives.
There are currently about 1 billion cars in use in the world. Using
just the reserve numbers quoted in the article it seems economically
feasible to replace them all with Lithium chemistry battery electric
vehicles.
- enupten 12y agoEthanol wouldn't work because, it usually has a <1 EROI, and requires way too much land. Hydrogen might work as way for storing energy; I don't think there are limits on producing Hydrogen, given the energy. I don't know if the Tech is mature enough. Oil is doomed to run out someday (possibly within this century).
- closetnerd 12y ago> Using just the reserve numbers quoted in the article it seems economically feasible to replace them all with Lithium chemistry battery electric vehicles. Are you taking the efficiency of recycling lithium batteries into account? As I understand it, recycling lithium batteries isn't that efficient, and the average lifetime of lithium batteries, currently, is relatively low in relation to the usable lifetime of a car. The main point of the article seems to be about raising the very real concern that lithium is yet another finite resource which we do need to be aware of.