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How is the example of the doctor even relevant? Woz didn't seek out these people to prank them, they came to him with unwarranted suspicions. I don't want to

How is the example of the doctor even relevant? Woz didn't seek out these people to prank them, they came to him with unwarranted suspicions. I don't want to live in a world where talking to "Casino Security", not sure why they get capital letters in you world, about a matter where you have done nothing wrong "is serious business". They wasted his time, he wasted theirs. It all balanced out.

raverbashing 12y ago
The example of the doctor is relevant because the doctor is downplaying someone who has a legitimate query. While you've done nothing wrong they have a job to do, and I didn't write it with capital letters because I overestimate them. Woz just needed to answer "I buy the sheets from US Mint and glue them together", not go on a diatribe that although technically correct might be not so obvious Of course a sense of humour is important, it's more important to know when to use and what are its limits. Or feel free to call fire in a crowded theater and tell it's a joke.
- mikeash 12y ago
  Unlike your doctor and theater examples, Woz's behavior here wasn't harming anybody. What's the problem?
  - raverbashing 12y ago
    I might as well stand in front of someone's house and begin taking pictures in a suspicious manner. I'm not harming anybody and it's perfectly legal. And then when the owner asks me about it I answer "this is legal, I'm not doing anything wrong, I have nothing to say, now go away", then be surprised when the owner calls the cops.
    - mikeash 12y ago
      Calling the cops makes sense, but you seem to be arguing that he shouldn't have done this stuff, not merely that he shouldn't have been surprised.
      - tedunangst 12y ago
        I think the point is not that you shouldn't use $2 bills, but that when someone asks about them, you don't reply with "a little BS about buying them from a guy that hawked basketball tickets."
        mikeash 12y ago
        Yes, that seems to be the point, but my question is: why not?
        tedunangst 12y ago
        To address your earlier point that woz wasn't harming anybody, insinuating to casino security that you're passing counterfeit money is essentially saying "I am doing you harm." We generally frown upon people saying that, even when there's no real harm to accompany the statement.
        opo 12y ago
        Considering that the casino security person admitted the 2 dollar bills were legit currency, the fact that he intruded on someone doing nothing wrong and proceeded to basically interrogate him, it would be more accurate to say that the casino security person was the one essentially saying he intends to do harm. Hopefully in the future he decided to not waste other people's time on his idle curiosity.
        raverbashing 12y ago
        " casino security person admitted the 2 dollar bills were legit currency" I think he said "it works with the pen", now this is a test but it's not very reliable "Using such pens is not a foolproof method of checking that a banknote is genuine" http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/Pages/retailers/hintstips.aspx http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/Pages/retailers/hin... (they probably checked other security features, but the older notes have less features)

raverbashing 12y ago

The example of the doctor is relevant because the doctor is downplaying someone who has a legitimate query. While you've done nothing wrong they have a job to do, and I didn't write it with capital letters because I overestimate them. Woz just needed to answer "I buy the sheets from US Mint and glue them together", not go on a diatribe that although technically correct might be not so obvious Of course a sense of humour is important, it's more important to know when to use and what are its limits. Or feel free to call fire in a crowded theater and tell it's a joke.

mikeash 12y ago
Unlike your doctor and theater examples, Woz's behavior here wasn't harming anybody. What's the problem?
- raverbashing 12y ago
  I might as well stand in front of someone's house and begin taking pictures in a suspicious manner. I'm not harming anybody and it's perfectly legal. And then when the owner asks me about it I answer "this is legal, I'm not doing anything wrong, I have nothing to say, now go away", then be surprised when the owner calls the cops.
  - mikeash 12y ago
    Calling the cops makes sense, but you seem to be arguing that he shouldn't have done this stuff, not merely that he shouldn't have been surprised.
    - tedunangst 12y ago
      I think the point is not that you shouldn't use $2 bills, but that when someone asks about them, you don't reply with "a little BS about buying them from a guy that hawked basketball tickets."
      - mikeash 12y ago
        Yes, that seems to be the point, but my question is: why not?
        tedunangst 12y ago
        To address your earlier point that woz wasn't harming anybody, insinuating to casino security that you're passing counterfeit money is essentially saying "I am doing you harm." We generally frown upon people saying that, even when there's no real harm to accompany the statement.
        opo 12y ago
        Considering that the casino security person admitted the 2 dollar bills were legit currency, the fact that he intruded on someone doing nothing wrong and proceeded to basically interrogate him, it would be more accurate to say that the casino security person was the one essentially saying he intends to do harm. Hopefully in the future he decided to not waste other people's time on his idle curiosity.
        raverbashing 12y ago
        " casino security person admitted the 2 dollar bills were legit currency" I think he said "it works with the pen", now this is a test but it's not very reliable "Using such pens is not a foolproof method of checking that a banknote is genuine" http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/Pages/retailers/hintstips.aspx http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/Pages/retailers/hin... (they probably checked other security features, but the older notes have less features)