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Here's a video of Woz showing his pad of $2 bills and talking about this story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ1TIYxm1vM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ1T
by timothya 12y ago
Here's a video of Woz showing his pad of $2 bills and talking about this story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ1TIYxm1vM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ1TIYxm1vM
- thomble 12y agoIn this video, Woz never states that his pads assembled from sheets of legitimate, uncut 2 dollar bills. He implies that he pays a local printer to create the pads from scratch. The reactions from the host and the audience seem to reflect that, as well. What's going on here?
- vilhelm_s 12y agoHe is having fun making literally true, but intentionally misleading, statements. Just like he did with the Secret Service agent.
- kiba 12y agoTrolling an LE agent doesn't seem to be a good thing to do.
- spiritplumber 12y agoIt is a very good thing to do in that it restores a balance of power.
- S4M 12y agoIf it were me, I'd be afraid the security agent would chose to be a dick and put me in jail for 24 hours for whatever motive he could think of. Also, the fake ID thing is pretty risky.
- raldi 12y agoWhy? It's his real name and his real picture. What law is he breaking?
- DanBC 12y ago(I agree that he probably didn't break any laws. The ID thing is awesome, really funny.) "Laser safety officer" is a lie, and lying to federal officials is not legal.
- raldi 12y agoHow is it a lie? Poof, I just created "The raldi-DanBC Club" and as President I hereby bestow upon you the title of Laser Safety Officer.
- tedunangst 12y agoIt's generally illegal to impersonate an police officer, or other government official. Laser Safety Officer is a stretch, but consider Food Safety Officer ("I taste everything that comes out of the kitchen!"). This is where those fuzzy "reasonable person" tests start showing up, much to HN's dismay, where every legal problem should be decidable by a python script.
- raldi 12y agoBy what logic do you equate "Laser Safety Officer" with "government official"?
- tedunangst 12y agoThe government employs a great many safety officers. I doubt many people know all of them. A "reasonable person" may conclude, upon presentation of a "Laser Safety Officer" ID, that you are there on official business. Depends on context. It's not illegal merely to carry such an ID. It's probably not illegal to give one to a Secret Service agent, either, unless you're trying to deceive them, but that's likely skirting close to the edge.
- tedunangst 12y agoThanks. The next time a cop is gruff with me, I'll know why he's frustrated.
- wglb 12y agoI can't help but think restores the balance of power in much the same way that sticking your thumb in the eye of a grizzly bear restores the balance.
- spiritplumber 12y agoActually that might be a good way to fight off a grizzly bear, so I'll take it.
- wglb 12y agoGrizzlies would often come down out of the mountains where I grew up. Trust me, I advise you not to.
- endgame 12y agoWoz is a master troll.
- andrewstuart2 12y agoI don't think he implied that he had the printer create them. He mentions that he paid a printer, who he knows through a friend, to cut the sheets, perforate them, and gum them into pads. You can see this better if you watch the video timothya linked.
- anon4 12y agoI assumed he meant he had a friend at the local mint who could get him uncut sheets and perforate them.
- maxerickson 12y agoYou can just order the uncut sheets: http://www.moneyfactorystore.gov/2currencysheetsbeptestsheet.aspx http://www.moneyfactorystore.gov/2currencysheetsbeptestsheet...
- phkahler 12y agoHe's trolling. He stresses that he had a "printer" make the pads for him. It is implied that the content of the pads was printed, when it was not. Everything he says is true but you are meant to believe these are fakes that "meet government specifications". Of course they do, the government made them, but that's not what he wanted the audience to think.
- fsniper 12y agoThe quality of the comments on YouTube? They are really so bad I wanted to puke. They believe Woz is so rich so that he could get over with "illegal tender", even secret service approves "his own printed tender". Is this really the US general public's comprehension level?
- hueving 12y agoNo, someone posted a comment about the abysmal rating system on youtube that promotes crap. There are no downvotes. This imbalance promotes one-sided views because people like to upvote stuff they agree with. The comment section becomes a nightmare of extreme opposites arguing and every sane person is driven out.
- fsniper 12y agoBut this "people upvote stuff they agree with" is also leads to, upvoted and visible ones (which are over the fold) are mostly agreed with stuff. So general public mostly agrees with that.
- Ensorceled 12y agoModerate views tend to get a "agreeable nod" and not an upvote.
- tajen 12y agoI mostly read HN, but my understanding is in some counties of the US, it's a regular occurrence that poker games at home with money involved are considered contraband and a SWAT team comes and kills the dog (Don't make fun of the detail - The dog story is here because it's the only way to get public emotion about it, therefore newspapers report dog stories first). The SWAT team could even mistake the address and there are no reimbursements for damages, even if no illegal activity was carried. Obviously we only hear about the few worst cases. Therefore would it be a stretch to imagine that any non-high-profile citizen carrying a pad of $2 bills could be suspected of illegal activities? To avoid a "SWAT inspection" don't you have to be either Steve Wozniak or in the right neighborhoods of US?
- raverbashing 12y agoActually it provides a very nice image of the pad, I though it was more like a checkbook, but it's 4 bills (cut from a big sheet) with the topmost glued lengthwise (and they probably added perforations to make it easy to tear) I wonder what's the padding between the notes, not too big I guess