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Try saying anything critical about Apple and see if this strategy works out in practice.
by dman 12y ago
Try saying anything critical about Apple and see if this strategy works out in practice.
- reitanqild 12y agoI've been pointing out problems with Apple and seen little punishment. Then again I am kind of thoughtful when I do and often make sure to point out that I like Apple, and recommend it to others, -I just personally find their products annoying to use for specific reasons
- bdcravens 12y agoI think true criticism is treated well (for example, discussing validity of walled garden in app store). It's the trollish comments, like calling Apple users sheep or ignorant hipsters that thrown money away, that are problematic.
- smacktoward 12y agoI've been very critical of Apple in this forum, and it doesn't seem to have hurt my karma too much.
- burger_moon 12y agoI think the topic is also important. Was the topic about a positive apple article, or a positive android or windows topic? You are more likely to draw a crowd that relates to the title's indicated company. Having a negative view point about windows is sure to get a better response in a topic that is praising an apple product. I'm making assumptions here on anecdotes of course.
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- cheald 12y agoWell, I just checked, and my last comment critical of Apple (and not even charitably so) is currently at +97 karma, so I'm not quite sure the argument holds much weight.
- dman 12y agoThanks for taking the time to look into this. I am afraid it does not address the wider concern I have of which criticquing Apple is a specific example. On topics where there is a deep skew in the opinion held by the HN readerbase, it is probabilistically likely that going against the widely held view will receive more downvotes. This has a chilling effect on expressing dissent. Of course there will be people who will be able to mitigate this with their gravitas and eloquence. But it would be better if we can come up with a scheme where we lower the burden on people holding a dissenting opinion.
- DanBC 12y agoI've made many negative comments about Apple, Facebook, MS, Google, etc and did not receive downvotes for them. If HN is tribal then attacking one tribe while praising the others might be a method to farm positive karma.
- malandrew 12y agoExactly. Doing a poor job of critiquing Apple will garner downvotes. Writing a well-reasoned and supported argument critiquing Apple will get upvotes.