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Actual, much less objectionable quote; The Internet is a dangerous place for law-abiding citizens, but because it’s open it’s a forum where criminals c

Actual, much less objectionable quote; The Internet is a dangerous place for law-abiding citizens, but because it’s open it’s a forum where criminals can get at people and steal their identities or pass counterfeit currency. The internet has clearly made ID theft and wide distribution of counterfeit money easier..

pakled_engineer 12y ago
Identity is usually stolen out of garbage cans and mail boxes, or by cronies working at banks and restaurants at least the kind of ID theft where taking out loans and other financial fraud that isn't just ripped database dumps of credit cards. They recently busted a network here that would pay drug addicts to break into mail boxes then use stolen property assessments for loans and false tax returns. The attorney is correct that the internet just makes it easier for anybody to become criminal with easier access to tools like counterfeit currency when before they had to know somebody in the underground, but even then it wasn't all that difficult. I remember in the mid 1990s my highschool pot dealer used to also sell bricks of counterfeit $10 bills. Before that a kid in my elementary school had an older brother who would mint tokens and he would sell them to us at school to use at arcades and vending machines when the dollar coin was released in 1987. I don't think the internet has really changed anything these kinds of criminal networks always existed.
- JohnTHaller 12y ago
  Identity is often stolen from vulnerable systems as well. Like that huge Target data breach. Those stolen card details end up for sale on carder websites for around a $1 each.
Spooky23 12y ago
Not really. In the old days, the only verification were things like city directories that listed the names and occupations of people. Fraud or multiple/stolen identities were pretty trivial. Running facial recognition on DMV databases has turned up all sorts of people with multiple identities for various reasons.

pakled_engineer 12y ago

Identity is usually stolen out of garbage cans and mail boxes, or by cronies working at banks and restaurants at least the kind of ID theft where taking out loans and other financial fraud that isn't just ripped database dumps of credit cards. They recently busted a network here that would pay drug addicts to break into mail boxes then use stolen property assessments for loans and false tax returns. The attorney is correct that the internet just makes it easier for anybody to become criminal with easier access to tools like counterfeit currency when before they had to know somebody in the underground, but even then it wasn't all that difficult. I remember in the mid 1990s my highschool pot dealer used to also sell bricks of counterfeit $10 bills. Before that a kid in my elementary school had an older brother who would mint tokens and he would sell them to us at school to use at arcades and vending machines when the dollar coin was released in 1987. I don't think the internet has really changed anything these kinds of criminal networks always existed.

JohnTHaller 12y ago
Identity is often stolen from vulnerable systems as well. Like that huge Target data breach. Those stolen card details end up for sale on carder websites for around a $1 each.

Spooky23 12y ago

Not really. In the old days, the only verification were things like city directories that listed the names and occupations of people. Fraud or multiple/stolen identities were pretty trivial. Running facial recognition on DMV databases has turned up all sorts of people with multiple identities for various reasons.