3 ms·

There are different "level" frameworks are out there. Ember/Knockout/Angular gives you a lot of magic. Backbone - not so much. Most concepts in Angular came fr

by hippich 12y ago

There are different "level" frameworks are out there. Ember/Knockout/Angular gives you a lot of magic. Backbone - not so much. Most concepts in Angular came from Spring Java (server-side, one request at a time,) which is absolutely unique to client-side frameworks world at this time. Reason behind this is very likely that Misko himself was server-side engineer at Sun before coming up with Angular, and he invented framework without working with other client-side frameworks, so he could not learn from their mistakes. So these specifics are not transferable to other client-side framework. Moreover - this knowledge likely will not be transferable to Angular 2.x too.

tegeek 12y ago
You are completely wrong on your assumption when you are linking AngularJS's origin to Server-Side Java. Most of concepts in AngularJS directly came from Silverlight and WPF. Before even Angular came into existence, I used to use the same pattern for building Windows/Browser centric client side apps on WPF/Silverlight. When AngularJS announced in 2009, it took me 30 minutes to get my head around everything & there has not been much changes since then. The only thing AngularJS invented was Dependency Injection for JS.
- hippich 12y ago
  If memory serve me well, WPF and Silverlight were brought around 2007-2008 by microsoft. Angular was released around 2009. Spring Framework in 2002. Misko was Sun employee and worked with Spring a lot and mentioned it a lot. I did not find any reference to silverlight and or wpf in his talks/posts so far. Next - I am not saying that idea of applying server-side mvc patterns as-is is unique, it is certainly not - your example of wpf and silverlight are good examples. Also, probably, reason why these did not stick well outside corporate environment, where decisions are made by managers and not people actually having to deal with it. If you have solid source explaining origin of angular - i will be happy to be corrected, but from everything i read so far to understand better motivation behind sometimes very questionable decisions I always find similarities between sun/java/spring.

by hippich 12y ago

tegeek 12y ago

You are completely wrong on your assumption when you are linking AngularJS's origin to Server-Side Java. Most of concepts in AngularJS directly came from Silverlight and WPF. Before even Angular came into existence, I used to use the same pattern for building Windows/Browser centric client side apps on WPF/Silverlight. When AngularJS announced in 2009, it took me 30 minutes to get my head around everything & there has not been much changes since then. The only thing AngularJS invented was Dependency Injection for JS.

hippich 12y ago
If memory serve me well, WPF and Silverlight were brought around 2007-2008 by microsoft. Angular was released around 2009. Spring Framework in 2002. Misko was Sun employee and worked with Spring a lot and mentioned it a lot. I did not find any reference to silverlight and or wpf in his talks/posts so far. Next - I am not saying that idea of applying server-side mvc patterns as-is is unique, it is certainly not - your example of wpf and silverlight are good examples. Also, probably, reason why these did not stick well outside corporate environment, where decisions are made by managers and not people actually having to deal with it. If you have solid source explaining origin of angular - i will be happy to be corrected, but from everything i read so far to understand better motivation behind sometimes very questionable decisions I always find similarities between sun/java/spring.