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No modern Russain Federation tanks can be seen around Donetsk (like T-14 or at least T-90). No regular army either (except DPR army).

by x4m 12y ago

trhway 12y ago
T-14 is still not in the army. Probably not even in the mass production yet. No T-90 has been sent to Ukraine. Modernized versions of T-72 is still in wide service with Russian army. Regular Russian army units (at the scale of several "battalion tactical groups", about 2000-3000 soldiers total) were sent to Ukraine in August 2014 - they stopped very successful Ukraine offensive by encircling significant forces near Illovaysk back then - and in January/February 2015 when they were primary force in encircling the Ukraine's forces near Debaltsevo. Combined battalion group (about 300-500) of platoons of special forces and paratroopers from various Russian units were performing major offensive in Donetsk airport in December. Officially the soldiers were "on vacation" (just happen to vacation with their guns and tanks in Ukraine). Unfortunately for wounded and killed in the January/February 2015 many of them were really put "on vacation" paperwork-wise and now they or their relatives have troubles trying to get the compensation money.
- x4m 12y ago
  Sources plz. >>Modernized versions of T-72 is still in wide service with Russian army. Oh, that's funny. SKS is in wide service. Along with Mosin-Nagant.
  - nazgob 12y ago
    There are many videos of T72-B3s geolocated in DNR region. This model was never exported outside of Russia. One of videos is by pro-russian UK war tourist Graham W Phillips about fights in Debalceve (after ceasefire was agreed).
  - trhway 12y ago
    >>>Modernized versions of T-72 is still in wide service with Russian army. >Oh, that's funny. SKS is in wide service. Along with Mosin-Nagant. In active service Russia has 2000 T-72, 2000 T-90, 3000 T-80. And 3 or 4 of T-14. So, according to you, which tank is in wide service in Russia?
    - nazgob 12y ago
      Where did you get data about 2k T-90s in service?
      - trhway 12y ago
        you're right, Russia has only about 1K of these, with 2K being the total production run so far (ie. another half was exported)
- powertower 12y ago
  Did you get that information from the US State Department or from a western Ukrainian news source? Not that it really matters.

No modern Russain Federation tanks can be seen around Donetsk (like T-14 or at least T-90). No regular army either (except DPR army).

by x4m 12y ago

No modern Russain Federation tanks can be seen around Donetsk (like T-14 or at least T-90). No regular army either (except DPR army).

trhway 12y ago

T-14 is still not in the army. Probably not even in the mass production yet. No T-90 has been sent to Ukraine. Modernized versions of T-72 is still in wide service with Russian army. Regular Russian army units (at the scale of several "battalion tactical groups", about 2000-3000 soldiers total) were sent to Ukraine in August 2014 - they stopped very successful Ukraine offensive by encircling significant forces near Illovaysk back then - and in January/February 2015 when they were primary force in encircling the Ukraine's forces near Debaltsevo. Combined battalion group (about 300-500) of platoons of special forces and paratroopers from various Russian units were performing major offensive in Donetsk airport in December. Officially the soldiers were "on vacation" (just happen to vacation with their guns and tanks in Ukraine). Unfortunately for wounded and killed in the January/February 2015 many of them were really put "on vacation" paperwork-wise and now they or their relatives have troubles trying to get the compensation money.

x4m 12y ago
Sources plz. >>Modernized versions of T-72 is still in wide service with Russian army. Oh, that's funny. SKS is in wide service. Along with Mosin-Nagant.
- nazgob 12y ago
  There are many videos of T72-B3s geolocated in DNR region. This model was never exported outside of Russia. One of videos is by pro-russian UK war tourist Graham W Phillips about fights in Debalceve (after ceasefire was agreed).
- trhway 12y ago
  >>>Modernized versions of T-72 is still in wide service with Russian army. >Oh, that's funny. SKS is in wide service. Along with Mosin-Nagant. In active service Russia has 2000 T-72, 2000 T-90, 3000 T-80. And 3 or 4 of T-14. So, according to you, which tank is in wide service in Russia?
  - nazgob 12y ago
    Where did you get data about 2k T-90s in service?
    - trhway 12y ago
      you're right, Russia has only about 1K of these, with 2K being the total production run so far (ie. another half was exported)
powertower 12y ago
Did you get that information from the US State Department or from a western Ukrainian news source? Not that it really matters.