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I don't know how to parse your comment. If you mean that companies using openstack as their core intellectual property, and providing add-ons and ancillary sys

I don't know how to parse your comment. If you mean that companies using openstack as their core intellectual property, and providing add-ons and ancillary systems for it will perish, I think that may be so. If instead you suggest that any company using openstack in their business will perish, I think that's false. At the highest level, AWS lacks a private cloud on-site solution, for all but the CIA, AFAIK. Many companies can/will/are us[e|ing] openstack as part of their business to provide a private cloud. Arguably they'd be better off w/ native xen, lxc, docker, etc, but they seem to be making it work.

hendzen 12y ago
The former interpretation is what I meant and I have updated my comment to reflect it.
count 12y ago
The future AWS is driving towards is where they are the power generation company that nobody has onsite either (except for very rare circumstances). You might keep some temporary capacity / backups locally, but you'll depend on the utility to be there for the vast majority of things. The market will see if that's the future or not...
- ghaff 12y ago
  That's the "Big Switch" theory. It's one possible future although my sense is that there's considerable skepticism about it from both the perspective of where the economical scale points sit and with respect to governance/control.
- jasonlotito 12y ago
  > The future AWS is driving towards is where they are the power generation company that nobody has onsite eithe Don't you mean "a power generation company." I take it you live some place that does not give you choice.
  - count 12y ago
    You don't chose who provides the electrons coming over your poles in the VAST Majority of locations (some folks run substations to multiple grids, but even then, are talking to the whole other grid, not a single power company). Deregulated power is about where you send your bill, not who's producing the electrons.
devonkim 12y ago
I'm sure if someone paid Amazon enough money they would consider building out their very own GovCloud. However, I suspect that the amount of money to do so would be so high that the only way it'd make financial sense would be when you're as hopelessly dysfunctional and leaking money out every pore like the Pentagon. I have a customer on track to be one of the largest users of AWS in the world within several years and yet they're not asking for their own datacenter despite the millions and millions that'll be spent.
- GatesBills 12y ago
  http://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ http://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/

hendzen 12y ago

The former interpretation is what I meant and I have updated my comment to reflect it.

count 12y ago

The future AWS is driving towards is where they are the power generation company that nobody has onsite either (except for very rare circumstances). You might keep some temporary capacity / backups locally, but you'll depend on the utility to be there for the vast majority of things. The market will see if that's the future or not...

ghaff 12y ago
That's the "Big Switch" theory. It's one possible future although my sense is that there's considerable skepticism about it from both the perspective of where the economical scale points sit and with respect to governance/control.
jasonlotito 12y ago
> The future AWS is driving towards is where they are the power generation company that nobody has onsite eithe Don't you mean "a power generation company." I take it you live some place that does not give you choice.
- count 12y ago
  You don't chose who provides the electrons coming over your poles in the VAST Majority of locations (some folks run substations to multiple grids, but even then, are talking to the whole other grid, not a single power company). Deregulated power is about where you send your bill, not who's producing the electrons.

devonkim 12y ago

I'm sure if someone paid Amazon enough money they would consider building out their very own GovCloud. However, I suspect that the amount of money to do so would be so high that the only way it'd make financial sense would be when you're as hopelessly dysfunctional and leaking money out every pore like the Pentagon. I have a customer on track to be one of the largest users of AWS in the world within several years and yet they're not asking for their own datacenter despite the millions and millions that'll be spent.

GatesBills 12y ago
http://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ http://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/