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While traffic lights are mission critical, we can absolutely make it fool proof, the first time. It's actually not very difficult. Don't forget, many lights ri
by Cshelton 12y ago
While traffic lights are mission critical, we can absolutely make it fool proof, the first time. It's actually not very difficult.
Don't forget, many lights right now are using weight sensors in the ground (SEE EDIT-2), A. that is very costly, B. They are prone to damage...a lot of the time, and C. with current technology in cameras, I'd say they will be more reliable and give better information about on-coming cars from all directions to the traffic light.
It is quite simple to say, if the conditions are bad for visibility, or the camera is inoperable, or even a bird is sitting in front of it, whatever it is, the simple fall back can be 'dumb'. A timer. As they have been for many many years.
I've thought about this a lot and imagine in the future that each intersection will actually be able to communicate with the on board systems of autonomous vehicles and create a very efficient system. At that point, many intersections would not even require vehicles to stop. It would regulate the speed of each vehicle so each one could go through with minimal energy impact. ...Sure...it might be a 'close your eyes' moment...but regardless, we can make it safer than how it is today...with humans making the stop/go decisions.
Whatever upgraded systems in traffic lights we move to, we have to start thinking about autonomous driving. It will be a HUGE leap forward in not only getting around efficiently, but getting around quicker! Human driving tendencies are inherently inefficient. The slinky effect on roads and highways is quite annoying.
EDIT: Another 'efficient' thing we can do is place short range charges into the ground near the stopping point at lights. This is down the road when a majority of cars on the road are fully electric. But as the vehicles sits at a light, it would charge. The power would be obtained through using photocells on the surface, so when a car is not currently waiting on top of it, they are building a charge. This of course would require the price of batteries to go way down to be feasible, but essentially, all forms of consumer transportation will be powered by solar.
EDIT-2: I'm wrong about weight sensors, I actually did not know about inductive loops at lights. TIL. Either way, they have a limited range of detection.
- tmoullet 12y agoI'm pretty certain there no lights that have "weight" sensors. The sensors for triggering signal changes use large induction loops to detect when ferrous metal (a car frame) is near by.
- noir_lord 12y agoYep as I found out with my Carbon road bike, they don't see me (or a bunch of us) which can be fun.
- mikeyouse 12y agoA strong neodymium magnet attached to your shoe or one of your components should be enough to trigger the sensor for the lights, I've seen them work on scooters and small motorcycles.
- noir_lord 12y agoThis is an excellent idea, thanks! Currently off my bike due to ill health but will suggest it to the cycling club.
- mikeyouse 12y agoNo worries! Some people suggest using a stainless metal case around the magnet since they tend to oxidize a bit, but there are a few good guides around with ideas.
- bradjohnson 12y agoI agree with you that the cameras could be made fool proof, or close enough with a fall back at least that it would still be beneficial. I just wanted to point out that the vast majority of car sensors use an inductive loop which is far less prone to damage and relatively inexpensive compared to weight sensors.
- genericuser 12y agoCertifying and proving such a system was actually fool proof would be quite costly though, as in house certification would probably not satisfy safety regulations. Side note: most lights use inductive loops not weight sensors for vehicle detection.
- Cshelton 12y agoOh I agree. Building a prototype and proof of concept alone would go along way to getting more on board. I think the biggest challenge though is getting municipalities to replace current systems. They have already invested millions and millions to get the current traffic system up. It would almost have to be the next cycle of traffic lights, when the old ones get replaced (depreciate fully). And of course, cities would probably want to do their own independent testing/study... It would be sweet to start seeing them appear on new construction though.