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I don't think that's a "better argument". I think it's a second, also good, argument that I didn't repeat because it's been mentioned by several other people.
by ryan-c 12y ago
I don't think that's a "better argument". I think it's a second, also good, argument that I didn't repeat because it's been mentioned by several other people.
Your argument is about protecting trivial passwords. It's quite common for people to independently come up with the same crappy passwords - the adobe "crossword puzzle" leak was a particularly interesting example of that.
My argument is about protecting moderately good passwords. If you use, for example, PBKDF2 with a fixed salt and have a million users, an attacker can try close to a million times as many passwords vs random salts.
You can still prioritize cracking with salted passwords in many cases. Say you had a dump of hashes form hackernews, and they were bcrypted with random salts. You'd go after the admin accounts first, then the well known accounts with a lot of influence, then everybody else.