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San Francisco needs connectivity. Can this man deliver it?

25 points by steven 12y ago

tswartz 12y ago
>$35-$50 for wired high-speed Internet access in San Francisco buys speeds that are about a tenth of those available in Seoul and Tokyo for the same price. This. I'm optimistic that SF leaders can put pressure on Comcast to improve speeds. Or perhaps they need to give incentives to Google Fiber and others to come to SF.
- Animats 12y ago
  Google/Earthlink crashed and burned in SF in 2009.[1] [1] http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Google-a-victim-of-EarthLink-woes-with-2506944.php http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Google-a-victim-of-Ea...
Animats 12y ago
Sonic.net is already doing it. Currently under construction, Sonic gigabit service in the Sunset neighborhood of San Francisco. Next, Bernal Heights and the Castro. SF Beautiful is fighting the above-ground boxes required.[1] [1] http://sfbeautiful.org/portfolio/protest-boxes/ http://sfbeautiful.org/portfolio/protest-boxes/
- sp332 12y ago
  Why are they fighting them? I only see one negative thing on that list.
- deleted 12y ago
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- rosser 12y ago
  San Francisco is seriously the NIMBY-est damned place I've ever been.
spiritplumber 12y ago
San Francisco needs to keep its personality.
discardorama 12y ago
The the glacial pace at which San Francisco bureaucracy operates, this isn't going to go anywhere. Soviet-era style "5-year plans" are a good indication of that. It took David Chiu a long time to get the "dig once and lay dark fiber" thing going; but it's still not implemented yet. Someone reached out to Ed Lee about fiber in the city. His response was "we're getting wifi!". Fiber in a dense city like SF is a no-brainer. Heck, it's the "capital" of Silicon Valley! But unfortunately the city bureaucracy is incredibly uninformed on tech issues. Efforts like MonkeyBrains, Sonic, etc. are not the answer, I'm sorry to say. You're just replacing one monopoly with another. Who controls the Sonic fiber? Sonic does. So now I've replaced Comcast with Sonic; it's still the same situation. The solution, I feel, is to provide fiber as an infrastructure; and let outfits like MonkeyBrains, Sonic, ATT, Comcast, etc. provide the connectivity to the Internet and offer added services. So the City lays the fiber and maintains it for a small fee; but to actually get on the Internet you need to buy service from a provider.

25 points by steven 12y ago

>$35-$50 for wired high-speed Internet access in San Francisco buys speeds that are about a tenth of those available in Seoul and Tokyo for the same price. This. I'm optimistic that SF leaders can put pressure on Comcast to improve speeds. Or perhaps they need to give incentives to Google Fiber and others to come to SF.

Animats 12y ago
Google/Earthlink crashed and burned in SF in 2009.[1] [1] http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Google-a-victim-of-EarthLink-woes-with-2506944.php http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Google-a-victim-of-Ea...

Animats 12y ago

Sonic.net is already doing it. Currently under construction, Sonic gigabit service in the Sunset neighborhood of San Francisco. Next, Bernal Heights and the Castro. SF Beautiful is fighting the above-ground boxes required.[1] [1] http://sfbeautiful.org/portfolio/protest-boxes/ http://sfbeautiful.org/portfolio/protest-boxes/

sp332 12y ago
Why are they fighting them? I only see one negative thing on that list.
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rosser 12y ago
San Francisco is seriously the NIMBY-est damned place I've ever been.

spiritplumber 12y ago

San Francisco needs to keep its personality.

discardorama 12y ago

The the glacial pace at which San Francisco bureaucracy operates, this isn't going to go anywhere. Soviet-era style "5-year plans" are a good indication of that. It took David Chiu a long time to get the "dig once and lay dark fiber" thing going; but it's still not implemented yet. Someone reached out to Ed Lee about fiber in the city. His response was "we're getting wifi!". Fiber in a dense city like SF is a no-brainer. Heck, it's the "capital" of Silicon Valley! But unfortunately the city bureaucracy is incredibly uninformed on tech issues. Efforts like MonkeyBrains, Sonic, etc. are not the answer, I'm sorry to say. You're just replacing one monopoly with another. Who controls the Sonic fiber? Sonic does. So now I've replaced Comcast with Sonic; it's still the same situation. The solution, I feel, is to provide fiber as an infrastructure; and let outfits like MonkeyBrains, Sonic, ATT, Comcast, etc. provide the connectivity to the Internet and offer added services. So the City lays the fiber and maintains it for a small fee; but to actually get on the Internet you need to buy service from a provider.